Things in general have not become heated or disrespectful, but they were starting to head that way. Ann's comments in the post above mine indicated to me that she was starting to take things (in particular, your comments about the NYT, which is clearly an important source to her) personally.

I still think you've been a little extreme in your dismissal of them, but I'm not in the mood to fight over it. (Or, really, to keep fighting over anything in this thread.)

But that's me. If the two of you are enjoying the discussion, and if things are on a civil track, then do continue.

When in doubt, think about penguins. It probably won't help, but at least it'll be fun.