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I am posting for Hasini who has been locked out by the DNS error thingie Let me say that again. Hasini wrote this. (I would never want to take credit for her very valid and well reasoned arguments. I'll be rendering it in italics to make sure that it's even more set apart--it might be annoying, but bear with us) Now on to the post... --start Hasini's post-- By 'chuffing the embers' I take it you mean I've posted too much.
My goal was not to chuff embers. So no, it wasn't done "purposely" at all but instead to make a point about the acceptance of the right for people to express a range of ideas without having them written off as 'rants' and even worse.
Firstly, I didn't mean you at all, Carol. I merely meant that Ann knew this topic wouldn't be received too kindly especially as the furor created by the previous deathfic thread has barely died down. Yet, she posted it, anyway.
(I think I understand how that misunderstanding came about. I used 'you' in the second sentence not in reference to you, but as a general pronoun. Like, 'one', you know. Of course, there was no way you could have known that. My apologies.  )
Secondly, give me a little credit. I hope I've never come across as being so boorish as to stop anybody from posting anything they wanted to say. Quite the contrary. In fact, the saying you cited, "I disagree with what you've said, but I will defend to the death your right to say it," is one of my own life's credos.
But I don't think you need to defend Ann's right to post, Carol. Everyone here knows and loves Ann, and we listen to her and give anything she says due consideration. Saying that we find something that she insinuates as offensive, is not an attack on her; it's a defense of ourselves. Give us a little credit, on that count.
And just now, you basically said, Ann, that if we equate Lois's grief over Clark's supposed death with Clark's grief over Lois's actual death, it is degrading an entire genre. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like my view point was pretty demeaned. Just saying "in my opinion" does not make it inoffensive. If you apply that logic, some of the members of these boards could well say, "In my opinion, anybody who posts soft core pornography about a family-oriented TV show is perverted. I'm not saying that everybody should think so, but I just think it's perverted." Somehow, I don't see us nfic writers and readers feeling placated by that, can you?
As for over-sensitivity, I simply meant that you shouldn't be so quick to take offense when somebody takes a defensive tone about such an inflammatory subject. Sara felt like her story was being attacked. Nobody has ever attacked anything I've written, but I imagine I would feel quite as threatened if I thought somebody was trying to do so. It's a bit like a mother defending her child. I just think that instead of automatically perceiving that defensiveness as intolerance, you should understand why people feel defensive about this subject, and then lay their fears to rest.
And if even that fails, I'll just say "that's just my opinion" and abandon that line of discussion. 
But, after reading the entire thread, I did want to just post briefly to say how proud I am of this community and the people who have posted here. Your intelligence, your tolerance, your ability to debate a subject that is contentious and frustrating to so many of you without resorting to flames and, on occasion, with enormous good humour is a huge part of why this forum has the atmosphere it does and why it is such a wonderful place to hang out in.
Hasini - the demons may have prodded you to post, but I applaud you for doing it. Your post is a perfect example of what I'm talking about here - balanced, fair, and able to intelligently make your point without resorting to insults.  We're really all just following your lead.--end Hasini's post--
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