Thanks for your reply, Ann.

I didn't think you were attacking anything, but I did think that some of your examples only showed one side. I tried to show the other side.

Regarding Mary - I agree, the bible doesn't particularly highlight her part in the life of Jesus. And, there's every chance she was shunned. She went with Joseph to his home town (so it's not unreasonable to think he would have some relatives there) and had to have her baby in a stable.

Terry has responded to much of the rest of your post and I addressed wifely submission in a post to Rac.

Thanks for your input,

Corrina.