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The most prominent people I have seen presented that are closely associated with Obama are William Ayers and Jeriamiah Wright, two extremist outspoken US HATERS. They've postulated to no end about how much they hate this country to the point of structural damage and warping people's minds.
Is this a view that is seen outside the conservative media?

Based on what I've read, the Ayers association is not "close" (this is a stretch, the only evidence is a 200$ contribution and that they were on an eight-seven person board). This would entail a radical redefinition of "close." I linked to factcheck about this in the VP thread, so this link is different (Washington Post's factchecker). Oh and here's Politifact with some more context from when Hillary brought it up.

Moving on, I don't think Jeremiah Wright hates America, so much as is a huge critic of the government. He's very much shaped by his past and the struggles of the black community. That's my own view based on having read quite a bit on him and seen several of his sermons in their totality--I also associate with groups (though secular) where this impassioned critique is not uncommon. My view is not a fact, neither is the view that Wright "hates America." These are two interpretations.

The "fact" is, however, that Obama has since repudiated Ayer's remarks/actions and broken off with Wright. He's done it himself, stated it point-blank.

I already posted factcheck's view of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mess. Of course, both left and right will "debunk" it. Both sides will want to spin it into something else to benefit their world view. I trust either side less than a source recognized as non-partisan.

By the way-- the Obama campaign said that Raines emailed McCain adiviser Carly Fiorina early last week (before it hit the fan) to correct her about the factually incorrect assertion that he was an adviser to Obama she made on TV (this was before the McCain campaign got her off the air). The Obama campaign provided a copy of the email to the media.

However, as of today, the McCain camp has remained silent on this. If they were correct in their assertion of the Raines link, wouldn't they jump to deny this?

Also, I haven't read of Daniel Mudd being an financial adviser in my trawling. Is this anywhere that isn't the conservative media? What I did find was an article from Reuters in which both Obama and McCain spoke out against golden parachutes, he would have been one of the people to benefit.

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