Originally Posted by groobie
That was one of the MANY objectionable things in MOS for me...she was Superman's girlfriend, not Clark's. I'm not a Superman fan - I'm a Lois and Clark fan. And it's easy to understand why...the fundamental choice that DJL made - this was a show about the adult relationship between Lois and Clark...Clark was the real person. I couldn't stand it when Lois was fawning over Superman in MOS...of course, I couldn't stand most of that movie, because it was everything that L&C is not.
Well, since Lois knows CK=SM from the beginning, I don't see it as Lois fawning over Superman in MoS or here, except with that one shot of her caressing his S-shield.

Originally Posted by Deadly Chakram
Originally Posted by groobie
Even the scene between Martha and Superman feels wrong - it's just doesn't have that homey feeling that K and Eddie and Dean brought to the roles. There just feels like a disconnect on screen, that these characters don't relate to each other in the right way.
2. I want to slap this Martha, with her "F the world" attitude. There had better be more to that scene that just "you don't owe the world anything" nonsense. Yes, Clark doesn't owe it to the world to use his powers to help, but the flippant attitude about it is just plain wrong.
I agree. After I posted my earlier preview review, I realized I totally missed Diane Lane's "You don't owe anything to this planet" speech. Um... wouldn't Clark be dead if it weren't for his folks sending him here? Didn't the Earth get fairly destroyed because of those new Kryptonians coming to kill Kal-El? (Okay, totally not Clark's fault, but still....) Didn't he not care much about the death and destruction he wreaked when fighting said NK's? I couldn't see our Martha ever saying to Clark, "You don't owe Earth anything. You saved it from Nightfall." which is what I'm guessing this Martha is saying. So much for mid-west family and selfless values, eh, Hollywood? I'm glad Clark's morals feel the need to make it up to Metropolis and the world for what happened in MoS, even if I don't like that he didn't get those values from the Kents. /i.e. the implication being that Jor-El and Lara were the better parents/ razz

Originally Posted by DC
Originally Posted by groobie
I'm wondering if "family" is referring to the Wayne Enterprises family (i.e. everyone working for the company) that was killed rather than the literal meaning of the word. If people personally close to Bruce were killed in the outrageously unjustifiable destruction caused in MOS, then of course that would be a powerful motivating factor for the bizarrely-cast Ben Afleck to work through (can't see him as Batman at all...though I could potentially buy him as Bruce).
4. I have a theory about the "he killed my family" thing. I think Lex won't be the only villain in the movie. I think Bruce will have to face someone else (maybe working with Lex) who killed Bruce's parents.
Both good points. I did like the motivation they gave Batman in this film. This preview did feel more as a sequel to MoS than the first one did for me.

I shall go see it for the entertainment value and in hopes that the producers try to redeem Superman's true character from its massacre from MoS. Anyway, it can't be worse than Superman Returns. grovel Right? shock Right?


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