Just for a change, I have no snarky points to make
It's been fascinating reading this thread, though. You all are good. I've learned a lot.
But one thing did pique my curiosity. Ann said:
You have had a president named Martin Van Buren??? I had absolutely no idea!
And I'm dying to know why that's so surprising
I never thought that much about him one way or the other, other than being vaguely familiar with his name.
PJ