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Posted By: Pris FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 02:17 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to read my fic! I appreciate you taking the time to comment.

Constructive criticism welcome. If you are offering criticism, I would appreciate if you would also offer an example of how I can fix whatever it is you're criticizing. :3
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 02:35 PM
Hi Pris! Haven't yet gotten to reading (really strapped for reading time at the moment frown ), but a request: please use shorter (20 characters tops or so) section breakers (the === in your fic), otherwise the browser adds horizontal scrollbars.

wave Michael
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 02:45 PM
Thanks for letting me know, Michael! I've fixed it. :3
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 03:24 PM
Ooooh, interesting premise. I'm almost disappointed that this is only going to be 4 parts long. smile1 So far, so good. I like that you've only changed Lois and Clark to Louis and Clara, but kept all the other characters the same. I agree that will make this a much easier story to write.

I love that Clara idolizes Cat clap and that Cat is so willing to take Clara under her wing.

I wonder how long Clara is going to be enamored of Louis because, frankly, he's being a big jerk (which is exactly what most of us would expect of a male Lois character) I love the altered backstory on the Mad Dog Lane breaking the guy's face who bothered his sister. It gives a hint that Louis is actually a big softy underneath it all. I can't wait for him to accidentally reveal this side of himself to Clara. I'm glad that Louis didn't follow in Sam Lane's footsteps as a womanizing man leaving drunken women in his wake. Why can I see Lucy and Clara becoming friends much to Louis's consternation? clap
Posted By: Lara Joelle Kent Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 04:58 PM
Love it!

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Louis Lane knew that Clara Kent was going to be trouble the instant he laid eyes on her. She was hunched in one of the chairs in Perry’s office, black hair in a tight French braid that screamed country bumpkin, wearing an unflattering suit that Louis strongly suspected had at one point belonged to her mother. The whole unbelievable outfit was topped off by a really too sweet oval locket with a flower engraved on the front, probably a hand me down from Meemaw. But all that wasn’t why Clara Kent was trouble. Oh no.

The trouble came in with those great big brown doe eyes, peering at Louis from behind unfavorably thick glasses. (If Clara’s suit used to be her mother’s, those glasses had probably once been her father’s, Louis would bet on it.) Those eyes said that Clara was a naïve country princess who would be broken by the city in a mere matter of weeks, and worse, there was an expression there when Clara looked at Louis that could only be described as worshipful.
Someone is in for a surprise once she's wearing different clothes. laugh

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And besides, he had Lucy to consider. Lucy was too fragile for the real world, and Louis had spent his entire life being her guard dog. Mad Dog Lane. Everyone thought that nickname had something to do with Louis’ tenacity when it came to journalism, but the truth was the nickname dated all the way back to high school. Some jerk had broken Lucy’s heart.

Louis had responded by breaking the guy’s face.
Whoa, what's that? Definitely something unexpected.

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“Be patient with your father, Clara,” Mom’s voice sounded tinny through the phone. “You know he still thinks of you as his little girl.”

“His little girl who’s strong enough to stop a city bus,” Clara muttered.
goofy Guess what happened the moment she arrived in Metropolis?

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They all turned and looked at Louis. “If you like that sort of thing,” he said, feeling that they expected him to speak. To be truthful, he was a little surprised that Jimmy had prose like that in him.

Perry stuck out his hand. “Clara Kent, welcome to the Daily Planet!”

The farm girl shook Perry’s hand, her smile cranked up to superhuman levels.

Wait.

What?

“You wrote that?” Louis burst, looking at the, the… schoolmarm standing in front of him.
Guess who's got another think or two coming?

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“Honey,” a deep alto voice made Clara turn. “I have *got* to take you shopping.”
Which will lead Clara straight to an invitation to the White Orchid Ball. I wonder who, exactly, is going to get the Luthor interview... Somehow, I can't see Luthor wine and dine Louis.

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Every time something like this happened – an earthquake, a storm, an explosion – she always wondered… Could she have done something to stop it? With the powers she possessed, could she have saved lives? Didn’t she have a duty to help where she could?

<Dissect you like a frog.>
Ah, the usual.

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<With great power comes great responsibility.>
Or not so usual. Wrong comic. (At least the two most prominent colors are the same, though.)
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 05:06 PM
Thanks! laugh laugh

I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.

So glad you like Cat! I've always felt like the show missed out on so much that could have been done with the character, but they kept her stuck in her stereotype so they could make jokes about her sleeping around - but at the same time they hinted at her complexity, by having her have all those books in her apartment, some of her exchanges with Lois, her reaction in Nightfall (up until the very end when she reverts to the stereotype). So I just wanted to explore that side of her a little more, and I figured with Louis Lane being a man, Cat would be one of the more prominent American women reporters, so Clara Kent would definitely know who she was and look up to her. :3

Glad you like the reason for the 'Mad Dog' nickname, and yeah, Lou is -such- a jerk XD He's going to get worse before he gets better, I'm afraid, but by Part 3 I think he should be decidedly less jerky. It's just in Part 2, things happen that make him cranky XD You're very right in that he isn't going to have an easy time getting an interview with Lex, because he's a man, and I've left Lex very much straight... But you'll see the plot twist there when it's posted!

Thanks so much! And thanks for such a thoughtful review! I sort of gasped in relief when I saw it, because it's always nerve wracking writing for a new fandom for the first time! party
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 05:13 PM
To Lara:

(Sorry if there is a way to make the comments divide into threads, I have not figured that out yet >_>)

Thanks so much for the thoughtful feedback! I'm so glad you enjoyed it. And yes, everyone is picking up on the fact that Lou is going to have a lot more trouble getting the Luthor interview in this version of events. XD

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Or not so usual. Wrong comic. (At least the two most prominent colors are the same, though.)
Ah yes! I know, that's a Spiderman thing, but I've always thought it really applied to Superman too, especially the L&C version of Superman. After all, the only reason he helps, when you get down to it, is that he's capable of helping, and it seems irresponsible -not- to, when he's so powerful.

Thanks again for great feedback!
Posted By: IolantheAlias Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/17/13 08:53 PM
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...and then, since she might as well go all out in this fantasy, he was going to be suddenly shirtless and riding a horse and declare that he’d been waiting all his life for her.
I see we're reading the same kind of books. laugh
Posted By: Lara Joelle Kent Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 03:55 AM
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To Lara:
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Or not so usual. Wrong comic. (At least the two most prominent colors are the same, though.)
Ah yes! I know, that's a Spiderman thing, but I've always thought it really applied to Superman too, especially the L&C version of Superman. After all, the only reason he helps, when you get down to it, is that he's capable of helping, and it seems irresponsible -not- to, when he's so powerful.
Truth to be told, I think I've used that exact line for a Superman story, myself. Because it really does fit. Or did I slip it into a beta I did? Anyway, I definitely agree with you that this line fits Superman (or Superwoman, as the case may be) just as well.
Posted By: rkn Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 10:35 AM
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...and then, since she might as well go all out in this fantasy, he was going to be suddenly shirtless and riding a horse and declare that he’d been waiting all his life for her.
I see we're reading the same kind of books. laugh
Well, I'll let him skip the horse if he wants. . .

GREAT job!I love re-writes where so many things are different but our beloved characters are really still there. hyper
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 07:35 PM
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I see we're reading the same kind of books. laugh
Lol, Clara has excellent taste ^_~ And I see her as being a bit of a character, because well. Martha's daughter.
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 07:41 PM
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GREAT job!I love re-writes where so many things are different but our beloved characters are really still there. hyper
Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying it! laugh
Posted By: mrsMxyzptlk Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 08:36 PM
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I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.
And Pheromone, My Lovely? And Honeymoon in Metropolis? laugh

I'm enjoying your story. I'm glad you're thinking of continuing it.
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Pris:
[b]I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.
And Pheromone, My Lovely? And Honeymoon in Metropolis? laugh

I'm enjoying your story. I'm glad you're thinking of continuing it. [/b]
I'm going to have to agree with mrsMxyzptlk, although the episode I was curious about was "I've got a Crush on You". evil Would Louis become a lounge singer and Clara a female bartender?
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Pris:
[b]I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.
And Pheromone, My Lovely? And Honeymoon in Metropolis? laugh

I'm enjoying your story. I'm glad you're thinking of continuing it. [/b]
Thank you! laugh

Hmmm, wow yes, I'll have to do Pheromone, My Lovely, because just. YES OK. YES. /says no more so as not to ruin it before I even write it.
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I don't know about Honeymoon in Metropolis though. I think in that circumstance their relationship would be very similar to canon, and the only really big difference would be that Lou was the one sleeping on the sofa. But I might do just a couple of scenes from it rather than the whole episode, and/or allude to it happening off screen in the other stories.
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 10:25 PM
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[b]I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.
And Pheromone, My Lovely? And Honeymoon in Metropolis? laugh

I'm enjoying your story. I'm glad you're thinking of continuing it. [/b]
I'm going to have to agree with mrsMxyzptlk, although the episode I was curious about was "I've got a Crush on You". evil Would Louis become a lounge singer and Clara a female bartender? [/b]
Ooooh, another one I haven't thought about. Really, that one could go one of two ways, and I'm not sure which one is better:

Either Lou is a lounge singer, and he sounds like Frank Sinatra and Clara wants to throw him some panties from her position at the bar

OR

Lou becomes a bartender, and THEN Clara auditions and becomes a back up dancer. But she can't sing, so when a new main act is needed, she uses her powers to make it seem like she's doing magic tricks - lifting impossible loads, disappearing from stage and reappearing at the back of the club, etc.

The Lou angle could be fun, because Frank Sinatra!Lou. But then with Clara as the performer, there's the opportunity for Lex Luthor to creep all over her, and that's it's own special gigglefest so...

/having way too much fun over here
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 11:06 PM
This is a very good story so far.

I am hoping that Louis asks Clara to go with him to the ball, even if it seems unlikely. Hmm, I am also looking forward to some other interchanges.

I like how you fit the new characters into the same mold. I especially like how you kept so close to the original dialogue and situation but it stayed believable.

The outfits of Louis and Clara are perfect.

Even Jonathan's dialogue has a new meaning and feel without really changing.

Keep up the good work.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 11:11 PM
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Thanks! laugh laugh

I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.

So glad you like Cat! I've always felt like the show missed out on so much that could have been done with the character, but they kept her stuck in her stereotype so they could make jokes about her sleeping around - but at the same time they hinted at her complexity, by having her have all those books in her apartment, some of her exchanges with Lois, her reaction in Nightfall (up until the very end when she reverts to the stereotype). So I just wanted to explore that side of her a little more, and I figured with Louis Lane being a man, Cat would be one of the more prominent American women reporters, so Clara Kent would definitely know who she was and look up to her. :3

Glad you like the reason for the 'Mad Dog' nickname, and yeah, Lou is -such- a jerk XD He's going to get worse before he gets better, I'm afraid, but by Part 3 I think he should be decidedly less jerky. It's just in Part 2, things happen that make him cranky XD You're very right in that he isn't going to have an easy time getting an interview with Lex, because he's a man, and I've left Lex very much straight... But you'll see the plot twist there when it's posted!

Thanks so much! And thanks for such a thoughtful review! I sort of gasped in relief when I saw it, because it's always nerve wracking writing for a new fandom for the first time! party
You just have to do Pheremone My Lovely if you are going to do most of season one. It would also be really fun to see Honeymoon in Metropolis, however that is less negotiable.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 11:14 PM
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[b]I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.
And Pheromone, My Lovely? And Honeymoon in Metropolis? laugh

I'm enjoying your story. I'm glad you're thinking of continuing it. [/b]
I'm going to have to agree with mrsMxyzptlk, although the episode I was curious about was "I've got a Crush on You". evil Would Louis become a lounge singer and Clara a female bartender? [/b]
I really don't see Louis being a singer of any type. Although if Clara goes in first that would change everything. It would be fun. Hmm, although since Johnny is incharge it would make sense for Clara to go in first.

That leads to the issue of how Clara hids getting rid of the fire from Louis. Also, Louis probably could not get rid of Clara, and Clara would not need a bullet hole to look through to report on Toni taking over.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 11:16 PM
Okay, I admit it. The scene I am really waiting for is what happens when Louis shows up at Clara's run-dwon hotel apartment. Will she answer the door in only a towel? Hmm, also I am wondering what sort of food she has.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/18/13 11:21 PM
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[b] </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pris:
<strong>I think if people like this, I may actually make it into a series and do treatments of some of the other S1 episodes. Not all of them, but definitely Strange Visitor, Heat Wave, The Green Green Glow of Home, Nightfall, and the season finale.
And Pheromone, My Lovely? And Honeymoon in Metropolis? laugh

I'm enjoying your story. I'm glad you're thinking of continuing it. [/b]
I'm going to have to agree with mrsMxyzptlk, although the episode I was curious about was "I've got a Crush on You". evil Would Louis become a lounge singer and Clara a female bartender? [/b]
Ooooh, another one I haven't thought about. Really, that one could go one of two ways, and I'm not sure which one is better:

Either Lou is a lounge singer, and he sounds like Frank Sinatra and Clara wants to throw him some panties from her position at the bar

OR

Lou becomes a bartender, and THEN Clara auditions and becomes a back up dancer. But she can't sing, so when a new main act is needed, she uses her powers to make it seem like she's doing magic tricks - lifting impossible loads, disappearing from stage and reappearing at the back of the club, etc.

The Lou angle could be fun, because Frank Sinatra!Lou. But then with Clara as the performer, there's the opportunity for Lex Luthor to creep all over her, and that's it's own special gigglefest so...

/having way too much fun over here </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Of course there is no reason why Lou can't be the singer, and then Clara comes on as a dancer, and then has a following act where she pretends to do majic. Lou could actually get sick or something.
Posted By: Lara Joelle Kent Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 04:05 AM
You know, Clara might look all shy and innocent, but she could just as well have learned actual pole dancing (as a sport!) - which would fit in quite nicely with the bar.
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 10:07 AM
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This is a very good story so far.

I am hoping that Louis asks Clara to go with him to the ball, even if it seems unlikely. Hmm, I am also looking forward to some other interchanges.

I like how you fit the new characters into the same mold. I especially like how you kept so close to the original dialogue and situation but it stayed believable.

The outfits of Louis and Clara are perfect.

Even Jonathan's dialogue has a new meaning and feel without really changing.

Keep up the good work.
Thank you! I'm so glad you're enjoying it and feel they're in character :3
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 10:09 AM
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Okay, I admit it. The scene I am really waiting for is what happens when Louis shows up at Clara's run-dwon hotel apartment. Will she answer the door in only a towel? Hmm, also I am wondering what sort of food she has.
Ahaha, I -just- finished writing that scene! XD Although, Lou doesn't comment on Clara's eating habits. I think growing up male, he'd have been socialized to never ever talk about a woman's diet, especially as he views women as being sort of fragile, and himself as being highly likely to send a woman over the edge.

Whatever the form, Lois Lane always has issues courtesy of her parents. >_>
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 10:12 AM
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You know, Clara might look all shy and innocent, but she could just as well have learned actual pole dancing (as a sport!) - which would fit in quite nicely with the bar.
Oooh, there's an idea! Although, with the upscale atmosphere of the Metro Club, it would have to be more of a Burlesque show.

Actually, I can totally see this:

Lou: Where did you learn to dance like that?

Clara: My mom and I took a class together. It's a fun way to stay in shape.

Because Martha would TOTALLY take a Burlesque dancing class, amirite? XD
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 10:15 AM
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Oooh, there's an idea! Although, with the upscale atmosphere of the Metro Club, it would have to be more of a Burlesque show.

Actually, I can totally see this:

Lou: Where did you learn to dance like that?

Clara: My mom and I took a class together. It's a fun way to stay in shape.

Because Martha would TOTALLY take a Burlesque dancing class, amirite? XD
Yes, but I can't seem them offering one in Smallville.
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 10:22 AM
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[b] Oooh, there's an idea! Although, with the upscale atmosphere of the Metro Club, it would have to be more of a Burlesque show.

Actually, I can totally see this:

Lou: Where did you learn to dance like that?

Clara: My mom and I took a class together. It's a fun way to stay in shape.

Because Martha would TOTALLY take a Burlesque dancing class, amirite? XD
Yes, but I can't seem them offering one in Smallville. [/b]
Maybe they drive to Wichita for the class?

And I don't know, I live in a very rural community, and we have things like that, so I don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibility.

Although, I suppose it could also be fun for Clara to have learned it during a stint in New Orleans or something.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 03:47 PM
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[b] Okay, I admit it. The scene I am really waiting for is what happens when Louis shows up at Clara's run-dwon hotel apartment. Will she answer the door in only a towel? Hmm, also I am wondering what sort of food she has.
Ahaha, I -just- finished writing that scene! XD Although, Lou doesn't comment on Clara's eating habits. I think growing up male, he'd have been socialized to never ever talk about a woman's diet, especially as he views women as being sort of fragile, and himself as being highly likely to send a woman over the edge.

Whatever the form, Lois Lane always has issues courtesy of her parents. >_> [/b]
You do have a good point. At some level I had forgotten that Lois had not only noticed what Clark ate but commented on it. I guess Louis is not really that rude to comment on it, even if he was quite rude in refusing to shake hands with Clara.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 03:53 PM
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[b] You know, Clara might look all shy and innocent, but she could just as well have learned actual pole dancing (as a sport!) - which would fit in quite nicely with the bar.
Oooh, there's an idea! Although, with the upscale atmosphere of the Metro Club, it would have to be more of a Burlesque show.

Actually, I can totally see this:

Lou: Where did you learn to dance like that?

Clara: My mom and I took a class together. It's a fun way to stay in shape.

Because Martha would TOTALLY take a Burlesque dancing class, amirite? XD [/b]
Of course, speaking of questionable dancing leads us to the conclusion that it has to be Louis doing such in PML.

Although if Clara has done such at the Metro Club it could lead to Clara trying to releave Louis' embarassment.

Louis:I am so embrarrassed I showed up in those clothes, dancing that way.

Clara:At least you didn't have to do it in front of a crowd like I did at the Metro Club.

Louis:But I wasn't doing it to get a story like you were.

Clara:I enjoyed it though.
Posted By: Queen of the Capes Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 04:12 PM
Finally, a nice and meaty gender-bender fic to enjoy! laugh (I remember only one vignette from the distant past that had a Louis and Claire, but it was such a short little morsel, and didn't really cover events from the show.) This is awesome!

I like your examinations on how the characters are different and yet, in some ways, the same: Louis is still relationship-shy, but this time, because he's afraid of hurting others as opposed to being hurt. Wow. The whole bit with his fear of being like his dad just made sense! It's my second favorite part. My *favorite* part is Clara deciding that Louis would be "Suddenly shirtless and riding a horse." clap
Posted By: AmyPrime Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/19/13 08:28 PM
Wow, this is great! The gender-swap is interesting and well-done, of course, but I also like some of the independent character insights, like Louis's silently admiring "Jimmy's" prose, and Cat's lecturing at the university. Lots of great detail!
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/20/13 10:10 AM
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[b] You know, Clara might look all shy and innocent, but she could just as well have learned actual pole dancing (as a sport!) - which would fit in quite nicely with the bar.
Oooh, there's an idea! Although, with the upscale atmosphere of the Metro Club, it would have to be more of a Burlesque show.

Actually, I can totally see this:

Lou: Where did you learn to dance like that?

Clara: My mom and I took a class together. It's a fun way to stay in shape.

Because Martha would TOTALLY take a Burlesque dancing class, amirite? XD [/b]
Of course, speaking of questionable dancing leads us to the conclusion that it has to be Louis doing such in PML.

Although if Clara has done such at the Metro Club it could lead to Clara trying to releave Louis' embarassment.

Louis:I am so embrarrassed I showed up in those clothes, dancing that way.

Clara:At least you didn't have to do it in front of a crowd like I did at the Metro Club.

Louis:But I wasn't doing it to get a story like you were.

Clara:I enjoyed it though. [/b]
OH THAT IS PERFECT! I will totally be using that for PML - with credit of course! XD
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/20/13 10:12 AM
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Finally, a nice and meaty gender-bender fic to enjoy! laugh (I remember only one vignette from the distant past that had a Louis and Claire, but it was such a short little morsel, and didn't really cover events from the show.) This is awesome!

I like your examinations on how the characters are different and yet, in some ways, the same: Louis is still relationship-shy, but this time, because he's afraid of hurting others as opposed to being hurt. Wow. The whole bit with his fear of being like his dad just made sense! It's my second favorite part. My *favorite* part is Clara deciding that Louis would be "Suddenly shirtless and riding a horse." clap
Thanks so much for the lovely comments! :33

That's the fun of doing a genderswap fic - finding the similarities and differences in the characters when such a fundamental portion of who they are is changed. I'm glad you feel like I'm doing a good job! laugh

I think I have no choice at this point than to keep going! XD Everyone is being so enthusiastic and helping brainstorm and getting me excited. I even started to draw a comic book cover for the series >_>
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/20/13 10:14 AM
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Wow, this is great! The gender-swap is interesting and well-done, of course, but I also like some of the independent character insights, like Louis's silently admiring "Jimmy's" prose, and Cat's lecturing at the university. Lots of great detail!
Thanks! I'm really loving the opportunity to delve into Cat. There aren't very many fics that focus on her much (that I've found so far anyway), and I guess I just have a lot of Cat Feelings.

Thanks for commenting. :333
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/20/13 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Pris:
[b] </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Lara Joelle Kent:
<strong> You know, Clara might look all shy and innocent, but she could just as well have learned actual pole dancing (as a sport!) - which would fit in quite nicely with the bar.
Oooh, there's an idea! Although, with the upscale atmosphere of the Metro Club, it would have to be more of a Burlesque show.

Actually, I can totally see this:

Lou: Where did you learn to dance like that?

Clara: My mom and I took a class together. It's a fun way to stay in shape.

Because Martha would TOTALLY take a Burlesque dancing class, amirite? XD [/b]
Of course, speaking of questionable dancing leads us to the conclusion that it has to be Louis doing such in PML.

Although if Clara has done such at the Metro Club it could lead to Clara trying to releave Louis' embarassment.

Louis:I am so embrarrassed I showed up in those clothes, dancing that way.

Clara:At least you didn't have to do it in front of a crowd like I did at the Metro Club.

Louis:But I wasn't doing it to get a story like you were.

Clara:I enjoyed it though. [/b]
OH THAT IS PERFECT! I will totally be using that for PML - with credit of course! XD </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Go for it. I am rooting for this story.
Posted By: Classicalla Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/22/13 01:26 AM
Because of this -- Gender Bender Challenge -- I'm quite interested in this story.

Shayne did a very well written story -- Gender Bender

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Those eyes said that Clara was a naïve country princess who would be broken by the city
Don't bet on those country princesses (or princes) can be broken by the city. Country folks can adapt to the city far easier than city folk can to the country. I think Louis might just learn this.

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Louis noted that, unlike most of the city women he met, Clara’s nails were plain and uneven.
Considering that Superman always had well groomed nails, I'm not buying this. I think she'd keep her nails nice and neat.

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He’d had his share of simpering admirers in the years since he’d begun making a name for himself as a hotshot reporter. He didn’t need a woman dragging him down.
I can so see a male Lois thinking like this.

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He’d had his share of simpering admirers in the years since he’d begun making a name for himself as a hotshot reporter. He didn’t need a woman dragging him down.
Awww.. That's sweet how he took care of Lucy.

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<Saved by the bell,> Louis thought.
Direct thought should actually be put in single quotes.

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Clara was going to do that assignment, and she was going to march back into the Daily Planet and get a job,
You go, girl!!

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Everything about Louis Lane was polished sharp edges, from writing style to wingtip shoes.
Good description.

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It gives a hint that Louis is actually a big softy underneath it all. I can't wait for him to accidentally reveal this side of himself to Clara.
I’m looking forward to that, too.

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With great power comes great responsibility.
I’ve also used this in a Superman story.

Great start!

Umm... I've noticed that there are multiple posts by the same people. You can use the quote listed below the box you type in and that keeps you from having to do that. I keep two tabs open and go between the two when I'm quoting.
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/22/13 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Classicalla:
Because of this -- Gender Bender Challenge -- I'm quite interested in this story.

Shayne did a very well written story -- Gender Bender

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Those eyes said that Clara was a naïve country princess who would be broken by the city
Don't bet on those country princesses (or princes) can be broken by the city. Country folks can adapt to the city far easier than city folk can to the country. I think Louis might just learn this.

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Louis noted that, unlike most of the city women he met, Clara’s nails were plain and uneven.
Considering that Superman always had well groomed nails, I'm not buying this. I think she'd keep her nails nice and neat.

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He’d had his share of simpering admirers in the years since he’d begun making a name for himself as a hotshot reporter. He didn’t need a woman dragging him down.
I can so see a male Lois thinking like this.

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He’d had his share of simpering admirers in the years since he’d begun making a name for himself as a hotshot reporter. He didn’t need a woman dragging him down.
Awww.. That's sweet how he took care of Lucy.

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<Saved by the bell,> Louis thought.
Direct thought should actually be put in single quotes.

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Clara was going to do that assignment, and she was going to march back into the Daily Planet and get a job,
You go, girl!!

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Everything about Louis Lane was polished sharp edges, from writing style to wingtip shoes.
Good description.

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It gives a hint that Louis is actually a big softy underneath it all. I can't wait for him to accidentally reveal this side of himself to Clara.
I’m looking forward to that, too.

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With great power comes great responsibility.
I’ve also used this in a Superman story.

Great start!

Umm... I've noticed that there are multiple posts by the same people. You can use the quote listed below the box you type in and that keeps you from having to do that. I keep two tabs open and go between the two when I'm quoting.
Thanks for the comments! Glad you are enjoying the story! laugh

Re: Clara's nails: I think there that Louis is just noticing that her nails aren't long and perfectly shaped. I think Clara would be careful to keep them short, so that she doesn't accidentally puncture things or scratch people. Is it better if I change it to 'her nails were plain and short.' ?

Re: Direct thoughts: There is a trend in modern literature toward putting all thoughts in quotes, and I'm just using the < > tags here where I would normally use italics. But thanks for the catch! :3

Thanks for the tip about the quotes, and also for the links to the Gender Bender stuff! I'll go check it out now. laugh
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/22/13 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Pris:
[QB]Re: Direct thoughts: There is a trend in modern literature toward putting all thoughts in quotes, and I'm just using the < > tags here where I would normally use italics. But thanks for the catch! :3
If you want to put your thoughts in italics you can (I do), but it's a little more prep work.

Just put a "[i.]" at the beginning of what you want italicized (without quote marks or period - but I had to include the period or the marking code would disappear and all you would see is the italics laugh ), and a "[/i]" at the end of what you want italicized. Then make sure you double check by reviewing your document with the "preview post" button below (next to "Add Reply" button) to make sure you haven't made any mistakes. Usually, I use italics if I don't use the dialogue tag "he thought" and single quote marks if I do. Just to be extra confusing. wink
Posted By: Classicalla Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/23/13 12:28 AM
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Re: Clara's nails: I think there that Louis is just noticing that her nails aren't long and perfectly shaped. I think Clara would be careful to keep them short, so that she doesn't accidentally puncture things or scratch people. Is it better if I change it to 'her nails were plain and short.' ?
Yes, I think it would work much better. As is, it almost felt like her nails were ragged and maybe even a little dirty. And she could still wear polish with short nails, but that could post a problem when she becomes Superwoman because people notice your nails if they are painted.
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/23/13 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by VirginiaR:
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Originally posted by Pris:
[QB]Re: Direct thoughts: There is a trend in modern literature toward putting all thoughts in quotes, and I'm just using the < > tags here where I would normally use italics. But thanks for the catch! :3
If you want to put your thoughts in italics you can (I do), but it's a little more prep work.

Just put a "[i.]" at the beginning of what you want italicized (without quote marks or period - but I had to include the period or the marking code would disappear and all you would see is the italics laugh ), and a "[/i]" at the end of what you want italicized. Then make sure you double check by reviewing your document with the "preview post" button below (next to "Add Reply" button) to make sure you haven't made any mistakes. Usually, I use italics if I don't use the dialogue tag "he thought" and single quote marks if I do. Just to be extra confusing. wink
Thanks for the tip! I'm used to html, so trying to get me to change at this late date just resulted in something like wallbash

I figured, in the interest of laziness, I'd just use tags so that I wouldn't have to reformat when I send it over to the archive. /unless I am completely mistaken and archive files can have italics and bold text. If that's the case I'll go back and format it.

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Originally posted by Classicalla:
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Re: Clara's nails: I think there that Louis is just noticing that her nails aren't long and perfectly shaped. I think Clara would be careful to keep them short, so that she doesn't accidentally puncture things or scratch people. Is it better if I change it to 'her nails were plain and short.' ?
Yes, I think it would work much better. As is, it almost felt like her nails were ragged and maybe even a little dirty. And she could still wear polish with short nails, but that could post a problem when she becomes Superwoman because people notice your nails if they are painted.
I'll go back and fix it later this evening as soon as I have time! laugh
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/23/13 11:45 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pris:
<strong> Thanks for the tip! I'm used to html, so trying to get me to change at this late date just resulted in something like notworthy for those hard-working and underpaid Archivists and GEs, who probably have a special place in hell for me and my long italics-heavy stories!>> But if you download the stories to your e-reader, or view it in the other formats shown (including Html) when the story first posts on the Archives, then the italics/bolding will show as you would expect. I know that there is another way to access these (non-.txt) versions of the stories after they've been on the Archives for a while, but I can never figure it out. I usually just cheat and download the stories to my Nook for easy access. blush
Posted By: Pris Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 04/24/13 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by VirginiaR:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pris:
<strong> Thanks for the tip! I'm used to html, so trying to get me to change at this late date just resulted in something like notworthy for those hard-working and underpaid Archivists and GEs, who probably have a special place in hell for me and my long italics-heavy stories!>> But if you download the stories to your e-reader, or view it in the other formats shown (including Html) when the story first posts on the Archives, then the italics/bolding will show as you would expect. I know that there is another way to access these (non-.txt) versions of the stories after they've been on the Archives for a while, but I can never figure it out. I usually just cheat and download the stories to my Nook for easy access. blush
Ok, I just went back and formatted the first two parts! Thanks again for showing me how. ^_^
love
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK: Louis and Clara (1/4) - 12/26/13 03:08 PM
Hi Pris! Louis and Clara just came up in rotation grumble RL…

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