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Hi everyone! smile1

Eligible Stories:

10:31 EditorJax
50 First Revelations MetroRhodes & Sue S
A Normal Day Terry Leatherwood
Absolute Proof Sue S
Across Time And Space Phil Mogul
Adumbration Catherine Bruce
Adventures In The Museum Elisabeth
After The Storm Dandello
Alienation MrsMosley
All I Want For Christmas Dandello
All She Could Do Cape Fetish
Always angelic_editor
Always Sammie
An Almost First Date MetroRhodes
An Early Revelation: Top Copy Beth Summerson
An Extraordinary Case of Bad Judgment and Worse Timing-'After the Fact' Rewrite Allison Forbes
An Interview With Superman Nan Smith
Angel Found Dandello
Any Time At All Janet Owens
Apologia JDG
Back This Way C_A
Bat Conference Mary Potts
Bats In The Belfry LaraMoon
Best Served Cold Kermtzu
Betrayal Mary Potts
Between Best Friends Tracey
Blind...As A Bat LaraMoon
Brake Light Sue S
Brassiere Incident, The Mrs. Mosley
Breakfast at Callards Pam Jernigan
Broken Life, The Betty Huang
Bugs and Bunny coolgirl
Bureaucracy Vincent Pai
Camera Obscura Mrs. Mosley
Christmas At Luthor Manor Elisabeth
Christmas For The Smallest coolgirl
Christmas Song, The FinLi
Christmas Wish 3, A Tank Wilson
Clandestine Disclosure, A symbolicangel
Clark Kent -v- Superman Rhea
Clark Kent's Biggest Secret (But Not That One!) Laura S
ComicBook, The Mary Potts
Coming of Age Stopquitdont
Consequences Of A Stakeout, The Mistyfur
Conversation Best Overheard, A anonpip
Cooking Mama clois4ever
Corn Festival Dandello
Corn Festival Consequences CarolM
Costume Controversy, The Erin Klingler
Crisis Of Faith angelic_editor
Cure For Lunkheadedness, A Tank Wilson
Cut From The Same Cape LaraMoon
Dark Night LaraMoon
Day In The Life of Bobby Bigmouth, A Kermtzu
Desperate Times ML Thompson
Don't Go Away coolgirl
Drabble Series #3: Pandora's Box, The Various Authors
Drabble Series: #1 Midnight, The Various Authors
Drabble Series: #2 Weapon, The Various Authors
Escape From New Krypton ML Thompson
Everything But The Couches JenD
Exclusive! LaraMoon
Extraordinary Caroline K.
Family Hour Shayne Terry
Fan Mail MetroRhodes
Field of Dreams Caroline K
Finding Christmas Spirit Wendy Richards
Fly Away Home Caroline K
Flying Sara Kraft
FoLCs In The Mist Mary Potts
For A Change LaraMoon
Force Majeure LaraMoon
Foundations Caroline K
Friendly Little Game Of One On One, A Laura S
Frozen Sue S
Gauntlet, The Little Tornado
Gone The Rainbow Catherine Bruce
Green, Green Glow of the Arrow LaraMoon
Green, Green Haunting of Home, The Terry Leatherwood
Gripe Sheet, The Marnie Rowe
Halloween Nan Smith
Healing Saskia
Hide and Seek Mrs Mosley
Home: Family Party Nan Smith
Home: Vendetta Nan Smith
Honeymoon In...Vegas Sue S
Honor Thy Mother And Father John R Hughes
Hope Keri
House of Cards MetroRhodes
How I Spent My Christmas Vacation - One Year Later Nan Smith
I'm A Believer LaraMoon
In Sickness and In Health CarolM
In Space, No One Can Hear You... Terry Leatherwood
In The Still Of The Night Mrs. Mosley
Interest Bearing JDG
Intern, The Marcus Rowland
It Might Have Been Ray Reynolds
It's Raining On Prom Night Laura S
I've Got A Question Saskia
Jinxed coolgirl
Just A Boy Dandello
Just A Normal (Super) Kid Vincent Pai
Keeping Up With Lois Kevin Hoxsey
Kids Amy
Kiss-Off, The CC Aiken & Erin Klingler
[K]nightfall LaraMoon
Laundry Day Sara Kraft
Laundry Night Sue S
Like A Blizzard Through The Night LaraMoon
Lois and Cl - Kal-El Dandello
Longest Road: The Roads They Walked Alone, The Raconteur
Lost Love Paul-Gabriel Wiener
Love Survives rkn
Magic 8-Ball JDG
Mated Mishap LaraMoon
Mendacity Dandello
Moment Of Proof Sue S
Mother Of The Bride Dandello
My Big Truth Saskia Kooistra
My Hero Paul Gabriel-Wiener
Never Forgotten Jessica Ackerley
Newlywed Game, The Nan Smith
Nightfall Dandello
Nightshade C_A
Nine Lives Marcus L. Rowland
No In Any Language Elisabeth
No One But The Sky Luinlothana
Not-So-Split Decision angelic_editor
Once In A Lifetime Vincent Pai
One Blinding Moment LaraMoon
Oops: The Destruction of Utopia ML Thompson
Owls Over Metropolis Marcus Rowland
Pheremone Nan Smith
Picture Perfect Wedding...What?? Laura S
Plane Storm Dandello
Planet Carnival Kermtzu
Platonic Sue S
Prankster's Revenge, The Tank Wilson
Pretty, Pretty Clark Laura S
Pushing Buttons Sara Kraft
Quiet Regret MetroRhodes
Raincat, The Classicalla
Reality Check ML Thompson
Rebirth Catherine Bruce
Rebuilding Superman Terry Leatherwood
Regrets Anne Spear
Remember Me? Jana L. Officer
Remember When It Rained princessanna
Return of the Suit, The Vincent Pai
Risorgimento Sue S.
Roadkill Reconcilliations Catherine Bruce
Santa Conspiracy bakasi
Santa's Helper Caroline K
Saving Efforts bakasi
Scream JDG
Scream II JDG
Second Choice Nan Smith
Secret Revelations Laura S
Security Sue S
Sequel to TOGOM Catherine Bruce
Sick Day MetroRhodes
Simply Because bakasi
Sister Would Know, A LaraMoon
Sleep Talking JenD
Slippery Snake! Catherine Bruce
Smallville Style rkn
Something To Talk About Laura S
Soundless LaraMoon
Southern Nights EditorJax
Stardust CarolineK
Starless Night Jana L. Officer
Steel Shadows Paul-Gabriel Wiener
Step Into My Parlour Janet Owens
Still Alive Leigh Raglan
Stony Ways bakasi
Strange Fantasies Vincent Pai
Stressful Researches bakasi
Strong Shayne Terry
Strongest Magic, The ML Thompson
Superman Divided MetroRhodes
Superman's Wife: Perry's Vignette Classicalla
Talk, The CarolM
Teaching Indecency Laura S
That Charming Smallville Hospitality Laura S
That Super Son of Mine Mona
The Challenge Caroline K
There And Back Phil Mogul
This Doesn't Look Like Kansas Elisabeth
Till Death Do You Part CarolM
Time and Again Shayne T
Time Enough To Heal Dandello
Time Will Heal The Pain? sammie
To Clark (and Lois) With Love Mona
To Do Lists CarolM
TOGOM, Sort Of, Not Really Tank Wilson
Too Hot To Handle Nan Smith
Twas The Night Before Christmas Smiley D
Until The End of Time Dandello
Until The Wind Changes C_A
Vaulted Emotions Catherine Bruce
Vignette a la Lois Aromassa
Vindication ML Thompson
Vulnerable Night In Metropolis, A Laura S
War Of The Heroes Laura S
Washington Beat, The Marcus L. Rowland
We Always Rewind The Best Part Laura S
Wedding Accomplished Nan Smith
Wedding Rearrangment Nan Smith
What Matters Most nina6
What Not To Wear To A Pop-Tart Bonfire Catherine Bruce
When Galaxies Divide StopQuitDon't
When It Rains Caroline K
When You Can't See The Woods LabRat
Whisper of a Thrill Sara
Whispers In The Key Of Love (An LNC Fic In Three Acts) LaraMoon
White Orchard Ball Elisabeth
Why Not Me? clois 4ever
Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow? Jenni Debbage
Working Dinner Daisymay390
Worst Christmas Ever, The Beethoven
Wow, What A Game Anne Spear


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dance Authors eligible for Best New Author Category!

Jessica Ackerley
Amy
Anonpip
Aromassa
Beethoven
Cape Fetish
Clois 4ever
Coolgirl
Daisymay390
EditorJax
Elisabeth
Keri
Kermtzu
Laura S
Little Tornado
Luinlothana
Mistyfur
Mona
Nina 6 – Maria Eduardo Eloy
Vincent Pai
Princessanna
Ray Reynolds
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Sammie
Smileyd
Beth Summerson
symbolicangel

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Thanks for that list, Tricia. smile So I gather only 1 story has been made eligible that wasn't uploaded to the archive in 2007?

I also have two more persons on my 'list' for BNA: Elisabeth and JDG. Could you maybe clarify why they are absent from your list?

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Saskia, JDG has stories on the archive under a different name. Elisabeth was eligible in 2005 for 'That Old Gang of Rhyme'.

Hope this helps. smile

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Ah, yes, that makes sense. Thanks again. smile

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Huge thanks, Tricia, for this smile smile I always find this list really useful.

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Ask and you shall receive. Thanks so much. I'm always amazed at how long the list is, and how difficult it is to narrow the excellent stories down to a handful of nominees.


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Very cool to see the list and wow, congratulations to everyone on it! Me thinks I have some stories to re-read. smile

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You'll find the schedule here , Sammie.

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Thanks for the list of all the eligible stories for this year. I'm really amazed by the number of stories, it's going to be hard picking favorites!

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OK, I'm new to all of this, so can you explain how the nomination process works? How do we send in nominations, and how many people/stories can we nominate per category?


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The nominating ballot is now up. You can use that to sent in your noms.

As for how many stories you can nom, look at the faq: They're all so good, and it's so hard to choose. Can I nominate more than one story per category? Yes, but try to keep it within reason. If you can, try not to nominate more than ten stories per category. Most things are probably covered by the FAQs on the Kerth site , so I suggest you take a look around there.

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I don't suppose anyone has already generated an eligible story list by category? smile1 Yes, I'm going to start doing it now and can post it afterwards if no one else has already done so. Please, grovel I mean if there is one already wink smile

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Thank you, James! I admit wanting to give up on my quest of going through all those stories myself already! Much easier now, clap and sloppy

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Mercy, estefi and choucky should be included as new authors. (Unless, of course, choucky wants to wait until she has finished.)

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I'm off to bed, but I did a quick check, Elisabeth.

From what I can gather from the TOCs, Mercy should definitely be on the list, having posted three complete stories during 2007. Unless there's some other reason she's not, that the TOC doesn't reveal. On the face of it, she should be though.

Estefi and Choucky only posted one story each and it's still a WIP, not complete, as far as I could see, in both cases, so they won't be eligible this year. Eligibility for BNA, AFAIK, like all other categories, is based on completed stories and WIPs don't count.

But this was a fast check, so it's possible I missed something and someone could either confirm or refute the above. smile

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Uh, actually, that list doesn't have the stories broken down on it. It's an FAQ about the Kerths and how to nominate, etc.

The stories are not grouped in categories because some stories qualify in more than one category. For example, "Platonic" could be in best relationship/best drama/best overall, and some of the shorter stories could be best waff/best revelation/best comedy, etc.

It is probably a lot easier to just list the stories and let the voters pick the categories for which they want to nominate them. Assuming people look at the lengths, it shouldn't be too hard, and at least for me, I knew the stories that I knew, and it was pretty obvious which categories they fit into.

That being said, this has been really fun so far and I'd like to thank the K-Com for all of their hard work to organize the Kerths. It's very appreciated! smile


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reposting my request here in case I posted in the wrong thread yesterday:

I'm wondering, if it might be possible to delay the deadline for nominations by a couple of weeks, given that we just got the eligibles list?

I'm feeling daunted by, (but grateful for smile ) the number of stories that I missed reading last year.

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The stories are not grouped in categories because some stories qualify in more than one category. For example, "Platonic" could be in best relationship/best drama/best overall, and some of the shorter stories could be best waff/best revelation/best comedy, etc.

It is probably a lot easier to just list the stories and let the voters pick the categories for which they want to nominate them. Assuming people look at the lengths, it shouldn't be too hard, and at least for me, I knew the stories that I knew, and it was pretty obvious which categories they fit into.
That's exactly what is done and why it's done this way. Many stories fit many categories, and the categories can all be fairly subjective. The only thing not subjective is the lengths. smile


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Mercy, estefi and choucky should be included as new authors
I've checked with the archive, none of them has uploaded their stories to the archive yet.

Everything that is uploaded to the archive in one year is automatically eligible for the Kerths, unless otherwise stated. Stories that have been posted in a calender year but haven't made it to the archive yet, can be made eligible by alerting the Kerth committee.

So I'm guessing the three authors you've mentioned, Elisabeth, haven't made their stories eligible (and therefor cannot be considered as BNA). However, they could absolutely be considered for next year. laugh

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I'm wondering, if it might be possible to delay the deadline for nominations by a couple of weeks, given that we just got the eligibles list?
Unfortunately, Carol, we cannot extend the nomination period. frown If we did that would affect all the set dates. Remember that you don't have to nominate stories in every category. Nominations in only one category are fine. clap

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When it comes to the category of BNA we're talking about the *author*, not the story. It's a unique category. All new *authors* for a particular year are entered into the Kerths. Whether their stories are on the Archive or not is irrelevent.

The criteria for eligibility for this award is the posting of the first story or stories by an author anywhere in the fandom. That year, the author is considered a brand new author and is included in the BNA category. They cannot claim to be one two years after posting their first story. It doesn't matter when they consider they first started posting, if they consider that that first story doesn't count because it wasn't their best - what counts is the posting date.


Mercy has been added to the New Authors’ list.

Also Shayne T has requested that Time and Again be made eligible. It has been added to the list.

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But Tricia, doesn't a new author have to have at least one story availabe to be considered as a new author? At least, I do judge them by the stories they have available.

And I'm still not convinced Elisabeth isn't eligible this year. The story you refer to isn't on the archive, has never been eligible and nor has she been up as an eligible BNA before...

So I'm horribly confused as how to intepret the rules about who is eligible as BNA. I always went by the rule I already explained above, and now it seems to be different?


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Thanks, Tricia, for considering the question.

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Remember that you don't have to nominate stories in every category.
I know that, but it doesn't feel right to me to nominate stories without having considered the other potentials in that category.

(That doesn't mean I've ever read them all, in the past, but I have given them all a chance - read the vignettes, and the first few pages of the rest, then read the complete story of the remainder, reread a few to compare, etc.)

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But Tricia, doesn't a new author have to have at least one story availabe to be considered as a new author?
I think that's what Tricia said in her post, Sas:

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As Tricia noted, the criteria for BNA is fairly simple. Each year any author who has posted their first story in the eligible period is automatically put on the list for the BNA award. The eligible story only has to have been posted anywhere in the fandom, as Tricia says - whether it was on the Archive or not is completely irrelevant. It could be posted on the Archive, on the mbs, on an author's personal website...the only important factor is that it is the first piece of work that this author has published in FoLCdom.

Of course, you're right that BNA is awarded - at least partly - on stories. It would be strange if it were not! The award is for the author who has first posted in the award year whom readers believe has written the best stories. That's certainly part and parcel of it. But it's still an award for the author, not the story. It celebrates the best new author of the year. And in that it's unique in the Kerths, because all of the other awards are for the stories alone.

Elisabeth first posted on these mbs in 2005. Therefore, that was the year in which she was eligible for BNA. I understand that it may regrettably be the case that in 2005 her name was omitted from the BNA eligibles list in error. If so, then that is deeply unfortunate and a bit of a sad situation. Hardly ideal. But errors do happen. That's why on the Kerth site, K-Comm ask that anyone noticing an omission informs them so that the error can be rectified. It is going to happen, now and then. K-Comm, just like the rest of we humans ain't infallible. Just like Mercy was omitted by accident this year, K-Comm were informed she should be on the list and now she's been put on the list. Every year, the list changes between it being first posted and the nominations stage as errors are tweaked out of it. Stories are added which were missed, stories are removed which were accidentally added...them's the breaks of such a process.

The onus is, however, on the author to rectify any mistakes, not K-Comm. They cannot be expected to trawl the net tracking down every single story and author eligible for the awards. That's why, with the other awards, if the story wasn't submitted to the Archive in the eligible year (which means it automatically ends up on the eligibles list) the author has to mail K-Comm and let them know they want it included. If they don't, it probably won't be unless some kind FoLC notices for them and alerts K-Comm to the omission.

BNA, as previously noted, is slightly different because the authors on the list come from the eligible stories list. K-Comm, as I understand it, simply goes through the story list, works out which authors posted for the first time that year, and that data forms the BNA list. But it's still possible for them to miss someone out, it's still the responsibility of that author to be paying attention enough to realise the fact and make sure they are on the list in their eligible year and K-Comm still don't have time to go searching them out.

The hard fact is that, if Elisabeth's name was omitted accidentally in 2005, that's regrettable, but it doesn't change the fact that 2005 was the year she was eligible. That 2005 was the only year she was eligible. Not 2006, 2007 or 2008. Authors only have one chance at BNA, unlike the other awards. They can't be considered eligible for BNA a year after they first post or two years - because logically that negates the very purpose of the award. They are, by any way you define it, no longer new after that year they first posted.

So, sadly, if her name was omitted in 2005 when it should have been on the list, then the deadline has long since passed for that error to be made good. Once the nominations came in in 2005, that was it. Game over. The opportunity to correct the error was gone and it can't be made good now.

At least that's my take on it. laugh . But I'm not on K-Comm, so you can take it as being pretty unofficial. wink

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I know that, but it doesn't feel right to me to nominate stories without having considered the other potentials in that category.
I know it doesn't help you out much for this year, Carol, but just for future reference for you and anyone with the same problem - it is possible to get started on reading the majority of the eligible stories without waiting for the eligibles list to be posted by K-Comm.

Each year, fully 90% or more of eligible stories will have been uploaded to the Archive. So if you go here on the Archive website, you can work out without too much difficulty which stories are within the eligible period and start reading right off the bat. Then catch up with the additional stories not on the Archive soon as K-Comm gets the list out.

Although, it's fairly possible that this year was a unique situation and none of this will be necessary next year. I understand there was a delay in getting the list onto the Kerth website due to a technical glitch on the site. Usually, K-Comm get it up pretty smartish, right after I send them the Archive list at the start of January.

But, just in case...it's always an option that might help. smile

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ah, I wasn't aware I could retrieve the first half of the year's stories that way. No need for that eligibles list at all then. smile

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edit: think maybe I did know once upon a time, but had forgotten. Have found that eligibles list so handy in previous years that I'd come to rely on it.

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Thanks for including Time and Again.

I think it should be easier to nominate stories without seeing all the possibilities than to vote for them. After all, if you nominate a story all you are saying is that it's worthy of consideration. No matter how good the other stories in the category are, if it's worth nominating, then it is.

When you vote, that's when you are trying to compare and contrast, and when you should make sure to read all the nominees.

Or maybe that's just me. I've been known to be lazy at times. wink

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So that means I was "eligible" for BNA the year I posted my first story?

And then, technically, one could be nominated and even voted BNA without having a story up for nomination?


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Rat, I understand your point. I've been around long enough to know the rules. I'm only sensing a different interpretation on the BNA issue this year. Yes, you're considered a BNA in the year you post your story. You can only be eligible for that once.

However, over the last years, I always thought you took the BNA out of the eligible story list. Anyone who has their story on their and is a new author, makes it to the BNA category.

Let me put myself up as an example. I wrote and posted my first story in December 2002. By your reasoning, I should've been up for BNA in the 2003 Kerths then. Yet, I wasn't until a year later because that story (and several others) were submitted to the archive in 2003.

So you see, I am now horribly confused as to just what the guideline here is. And if maybe interpretation has shifted? I would at least like to suggest something about BNA being added to the Kerth FAQs.

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Well, this is an outsider's impression.

I really thought I was clear about BNA, but after reading through this thread, I'm now totally confused.

Here's what I'd always assumed: ( I haven't noticed anything in Kerth practice over the years to contradict what follows. That doesn't mean it's not there, of course. smile )

-> The Kerths are for completed stories only

- >The 2008 Kerths are for fics completed in 2007. So BNA would be for any new author who completed his/her first L &C fic in 2007. Or who had his first fic posted on the Archive in 2007 *and* had not requested eligibility in any other year.

-> Story eligibility is based on stories posted in the archives, or those submitted to the archive before the December deadline of 2007. No stories posted on the mbs (or elsewhere) are eligible unless the author makes a specific request to K-Com to have them included (and of course herself as a BNA if that's a possibility)

-> if you didn't request to be added to the eligibles list for a new author fic not posted on the archives, but then that fic was posted on the archives during the next year (2008 in this context), then you would be then eligible for BNA in the 2009 K's. (just as there are some stories on the 2008 eligibles list that were posted elsewhere before 2007 - same principle)
..... But, if this author had requested to be included on the eligibles list for the year in which the story was posted elsewhere, then s/he would not be eligible. (the 'one kick at the can' rule. smile )

-> only the author can make the request to be added to the eligibles list. (otherwise some may be listed who doesn't wish to be by a well-intentioned 3rd party smile )

what I'm hazy about it this:
Is there a deadline for requesting that you or a fic be added to the eligibles list? Like no requests after noms open? (which would make sense I think)

anyway, has always been my impression. But as I say, I'm now confused.

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I guess I'm as confused as Carol here...

So, in theory, I could post a fic to my livejournal or blog or whatever in 2006 but nobody ever heard of it and I wasn't a part of the fandom but I just posted the fic on my own blog - I'd never even heard of Kerths. Since my fic isn't on the archive, it and I are not automatically eligible.

In 2007, I found the fandom and started writing and posting to the boards and archive, but now I'm not eligible for BNA because I knew absolutely nothing about them. If still no one knew about that original fic, then I suppose I might still be included but a bunch of people do so it's well known that my first fic was actually posted to my blog in 2006.

Or even someone who posted a New Years Vignette on Dec. 31 to the boards but who had no knowledge of the Kerths etc. If they did, they may have waited until 1/1 to post but instead are eligible this year instead of next.

I'd never given it too much thought, but I always assumed [yes, yes, I know] that someone was eligible for BNA the first year they had stories eligible. I guess in theory, someone could be posting stories to the boards for years, never put them on the archive and never make them eligible and then one year put them all on the archive making it seem that they were very prolific one year. Right or wrong [and wrong IMO, but...], a new author who has been quite prolific, may have an advantage. Several years ago [and I hope this has changed since then], someone told me that when looking at BNA, several people this particular person knew voted in part based on prolificity [is that right?]. This person also stated that was the only reason I won BNA in 2002. I'd like to think I had SOME talent to back it up [and other noms over the years would bear that out, but still...]. It's unlikely that person even remembers the comment and I haven't seen her on the boards in quite some time, but it's still clear as day to me. Over time, of course, that author's writing has improved so they might have another 'leg up' on other new authors who actually posted their first fic to both the boards and the archive that year. I would think that would be a rare case and those who frequent the boards, at least, would know that as well and possibly take it into account...

I guess I thought that KCom went over the list of fics and anyone who had never had fic eligible before would be on the BNA list and they wouldn't trawl the boards etc. looking for other authors who posted but hadn't put them on the archive.

*shrug* Color me confused and it doesn't apply to me anyway. So if a fic is posted but not finished - a WIP - then the author is eligible the year the fic is finished not started correct?

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Actually, I find myself confused on the BNA issue as well, for the example that Carol just mentioned - that an author's first story/stories could be on a non-L&C site that no one knows anything about. Or perhaps on fanfiction.net - does K-Comm go through the stories posted there to confirm BNA eligible authors? In another fandom I have seen a particular author post several stories, remove them all plus her posting name, then return to the fandom a couple of years later under a new name and several more stories (whether these are the same stories that were posted there earlier, I don't know). It would be hard to keep track of something like that. And of course ff.net is not a dedicated L&C site, but it has a large L&C section that many are well aware of, so it's more prominent than someone's LJ who has remained a lurker on either of the main boards.

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So if a fic is posted but not finished - a WIP - then the author is eligible the year the fic is finished not started correct?
Based on what Labby said earlier, Carol, that's what I would believe as well. That is why Mercy is eligible for BNA this year but Estefi isn't.

And Carol, I'm so sorry to hear about that comment made to you about "why" you won BNA. Prolificity (I don't know if it's a real word either, but I really like it so I'm going to use it) may play a factor when some people choose BNA, but wouldn't be the only reason, for anyone. As I recall two or three years ago Michael won BNA and he only had one story. And as your subsequent stories and Kerth noms bear out, your work stands on its own, regardless of how many there are in a given year. Even though I hope you know that it wasn't true, it must have been a hard thing for you to hear, and I'm sorry that the person was bitter/angry/disappointed enough to say it.

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Kathy - thank you for your kind words. I had 3 individual stories nominated that year and 1 the next [and not much posted after that until this year] so surely there is/was something to back up the nom at least smile . However, coming after Shayne [have you *read* his stuff?!?!] and before Kaylle [can you say 'In Dreams'?!?!], I still feel extremely undeserving. I did go back and reread the comments from my nominated stories and that was a nice pick me up. Think one may have even sparked a story idea [like I need that right now!], but we'll see...

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So should I be eligible for BNA? I'm still working on my first gfic (Specimen) but I did write a story as part of the Christmas fication which I'm pretty sure (although haven't checked) I posted at the end of 2007, which I haven't posted to the archives purely out of an odd sense of sentimentality which wants Specimen to be put up there first!

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Alisha - you posted 'The Box' on 12/30.

I guess that means you'd be eligible for this year's Kerths [and fits perfectly with my example earlier - you know about Kerths obviously, but had you known it would automatically make you eligible this year, you might have waited - not trying to put 'words in your mouth' or anything, just saying it's a possibility] even though you don't actually have a story eligible.

At least that's the way I understand it from the previous posts, but I could be wrong...
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I must admit that even though for a number of years I have tracked which stories are eligible each year, I haven't kept a list for BNA, but have always just used the eligibility list provided by K-Comm. I understand that K-Comm may have been following this interpretation all along, and that sometimes omissions may be made that are no one's fault. This year we have at least two authors - Mercy and Alisha - who have not sent a story to the Archive, but have posted complete stories on either of the mbs and are therefore eligible for BNA. It's possible that there are still more.

K-Comm goes through a lot of work to run a successful Kerth Awards, and I'm loathe to add their workload. However, would it be possible, for the BNA candidates who do not have any stories on the Archive, to list the names of the stories written by those authors. It would make it a little easier to then find and read all the stories written by that author to date. If an author's name does not appear in the thread title of that particular TOC, it is possible to miss it using the Search feature.

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All right guys, I just got back from a short holiday. BNA is definitely confusing and we're going to rewrite that part of the FAQ so it looks clearer.

The rule is, an author is eligible for BNA the year they have their first story eligible for the Kerth Awards. So, considering Elisabeth never made her story eligible back in 2005, then her first eligible stories are from 2007 and she's therefore eligible for BNA this year. Knowing this, that also means that Mercy and Alisha aren't eligible this year, since they don't have a story eligible yet. They can compete next year. smile

Sorry for getting everyone confused. blush blush blush

Anyway, we've added Elisabeth to the list, and since nominations have already started, we've discussed a way to make things fair for her. So we've decided to email everyone who's already sent in their nominations, informing them we messed up with the new authors list and asking them whether they want to reconsider for that particular category.

Apologies again! I guess that proves we're human and not totally computer-controlled, doesn't it? wink

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Thanks for clarifying, Kae. smile

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You rock, Kae!

Thanks for clearing it all up! I'm not Elisabeth of course, but that seems like a good way to try to rectify the situation.

Hope you had a great time on your holiday!

Thanks for the hard work, K Com!
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Thank you, Kaethel. I may not be the best new author from 2007, but I appreciate being eligible. I also appreciate all of the hard work from you and all of the Kerth Committee.


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PS I'm also looking forward to next year when both Mercy and Alisha will be eligible.

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Thanks for clarifying that Kaethel, that's how I originally thought it worked.

Now I can work on something worthy of getting me nominated for BNA next year! wink

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