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that has to be the best post ive seen ever

well maybe that was exadgerated a bit...but it still tasted better than sex...

I call'em bum bags... F$#@$ is used here quite commonly though it is frowned apon....and i hate when i slip into the crass lowerclss usage of the word as a supurlative... i mean i am an intelegent person, why should i use a wqord like F(*&$ when it is in no way expresses my feeling of frustrations

i too would love to be a linguist or etamologist in my next life ... there just isnt enough time, and i suppose it is more profitable to be an amator linguist than an amator psychiatrist

http://www.silverladder.com/literature/chinglish/light2.jpg
is one great example of chinglish in action.... the whole site is great

i guess i have a headache now, so will continue this later (unless i get distracted)

gosh my grammer is crap...

F*&^* in no way expresses my frustrations

(delete the extra IS from -in no way IS exresses... or change expresses to expressing.)

i should be better than this but as i said i have a headache and am rambling....

Just FYI, beethoven - if you want to edit a post just click on the little pad and pen icon in the post header and that will let you back in to make any changes you want.

LabRat

The f word is quite an all encompasing word. F is worse than s to me. F can also be more directed at a person, which feels worse.

Growing up I was never allowed to say sod, buggar or bloody and my mum grew was in the UK until she was a teenager.

About the s-word...well, I was going through my personal movie collection (of about three movies ) and I noticed that my Back to the Future movie was rated "unsuitable for kids under 11", which I'm rather sure is somewhat equal to your rating pg13. And the thought struck me; Marty must use the s-word more often than I use semmicolons in a fic (ask poor Labby. I overuse them constantly...I love them so much I even have them in my tea). So, err, shouldn't the Back to the Future movie(s) be rated higher if the s-word is so harch?

Back to the Future is rated PG in the US. I think the S word is considered fairly benign in this country. My parents, who were extremely conservative in what we were allowed to watch as kids, never had a problem letting us watch the Back to the Future films . Alhough admittedly I think my mom was more concerned about our exposure to violence, etc, than profanity.

I don't think that's really true. I certainly hear the F word around here, on a college campus, but if you said it in front of your average six year old I bet her mother would be more annoyed than if you'd said damn To me, the F word is always offensive, on a level above all the rest. In any context. It's used like there's no tomorrow by the college students around me, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I swear more these days than I did in high school, but that is definitely where I draw the line.

It's interesting to see how these things change from country to country, though!

Kaylle

(who is reminded of a formal dance at her school a couple years ago where the first song she remembers being played had a chorus of women singing "F*** me" every so many bars. Because that's romantic )

interesting - such a diversity of opinion. I'm not going to defend the use of either the S word or the F word, but I find the former much more offensive, probably because the f-word is colloquial for something rather pleasant, and the S word is, well, not.

Probably much better it we all stick to the Latin.

c

Well, sort of. Until fairly recently, it had a strong implication of nasty/tawdry, and possibly even assault. In fact, the first time I heard it used in a "nice" manner, I was shocked. (Admittedly, I grew up pretty sheltered. I was at least 12 or 13 before I found out that "snafu" didn't stand for System Normal, All Fouled Up. )

I suppose this is probably why my mother refused to let me use either one, ever. Same goes for basically any other word that is considered offensive in any English speaking country. I still remember the time a native French speaker I knew walked into a room full of elderly, American Southern Baptists and said cheerfully (and too loudly), "F***ing good day isn't it?"

You could have heard a pin drop. That was a definite conversation killer, poor guy.

Although you wouldn't catch me saying "oh sugar" either, because that just cracks me up.

Ehh... forgive a poor Swedish slob here, but what's wrong with "oh sugar"?

Ann

I think one of the most interesting elements to come out of this discussion is how many false perceptions we have about how taboo (or not) a particular word is in a particular country. I've certainly had a few surprises.

SNAFU - haven't heard that one in years. LOL. I was always a little fond of using FUBAR myself. (F%£$%£ Up Beyond All Recognition). Or for polite company, you could substitue 'Fouled'. <g> Just doesn't have the same resonance somehow, though.

My lawyer boss had a good sense of humour and I used to scrawl that one a lot on cases that had gone awry when I left them on his desk for his attention. (Although he was rather more fond of seeing 'This one's a SOBP' (Some Other Bugger's Problem) )

LabRat

The f- word...

I certainly don't use it in English. Never, ever.

But there's this word, its Greek equivalent. It's considered a very bad curseword; telling someone to 'f#$% off' is one of the worst things you can tell them.

But there's an exception. In Greek, when something goes wrong, you can say 'Oh, f#$% it!' (as if you were saying 'Oh, f#$%!' in English) and, while I avoid using it in front of parents/teachers, it's pretty much acceptable. Now, if you were to replace 'it' with anything else (which is something that many people do), it would become a very heavy curseword again.

When you think about it, it's weird.

(I don't swear much - in fact, I swear much less than most people I know. But 'f#$% it' is something I do say. Always with 'it', though.)

See ya,
AnnaBtG.

I think we had the same mother.

As well on my mom's list. callling anyone 'Stupid'.

Re the meaning of the F word - read Lady Chatterly's Lover when a teen and that pretty much shaped my perceptioin of the word. Oddly, it's only since the words' overuse in the last decade have I come also to see it as a violent word.

Back to my orginal query at the start: my author was using it satirically - her little riff made the point about the word.

As for the S -word I've always thought the only people who could find pleasure in the word were rubber-gloved CSI guys scouring a crime scene.

c

ive heard two theories of the F word's origen
1. Fornication Under Consent of the King (F.#.*.K)
the initials were posted above the first legal brothels in england ... but i cant remember which king legallised prostitution as long as it was "controlled" in a brothel

2. the other is from the saxon part of our ANGLO-SAXON heriitage. originally it meant something similar...

I am not sure how you wouldd phrase the word in a satirical way... perhaps even the most sheltered 13yr olds have heard the word at least once, so by alluding to it in a similar way as in F@#$% etc. could be enough

This, I believe, has been debunked in recent years as popular myth.

The word definitely has Anglo-Saxon origins, but beyond that, I have no clue.

LabRat

yeah well these were just two theories... i never said either were 100% accurate...

i still think the word is use nowdays far more for its shock value, which adds to the superlative nature of the word

There's nothing wrong with that expression, actually. As you probably already know, it's used instead of a different S word sometimes, and at least where I live, usually by elderly women who are more genteel. I was just stating that, while I didn't find it offensive, I would feel like my grandmother if I used that expression.

Sorry for the confusion there

Oxford dictionary lists no clear etymology, but given that the first recorded written instance of it (as a verb) in 1503 was spelled with two "k"s an "i" and a "t", I'd guess it's a myth after all. Then again... the didn't really spell so well back then.

Sara

No, honestly, Capes, I don't know what S word you are referring to. Do you mean that four-letter X-rated S word that has already been discussed here? What other S word could you possibly be talking about? Sweetheart? Stupid? Silly me? Suck, as in "It sucks"? Please enlighten me.

Ann

That's the one.