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The recent proliferation of generative AI is threatening creatives everywhere. In the writing space, including fiction writing and publishing, there has been an explosion in the last year or two of stories that were largely written by or heavily revised using genAI (including, but not limited to, genAI chatbots and genAI “tools” commonly incorporated into many software programs). GenAI models, such as ChatGPT and these aforementioned “tools,” are trained using stolen writing and art, without permission from the copyright holder (with several high-profile copyright infringement lawsuits currently ongoing[1]).

Using these platforms to assist in the writing process does not seem ethically sound and is, in fact, exploiting the hard work of other writers and artists, who have spent years honing their craft. In addition, there are major negative environmental impacts associated with AI data centers around the globe, and all use of genAI feeds into these impacts.[2a,b]

Fanfiction is such a wonderful outlet for fans, and we’re very proud to be part of this fandom, which was born at the very beginnings of online communities. Many of us remember writing fanfic by hand or typing out our stories in very basic word processing programs that lacked even a basic spellcheck feature. Things have definitely changed, and we felt we needed to address this issue going forward.

To that end, it is the view of the current EICs of the L&C Fanfic Archive that genAI has no place in fanfiction writing. Writing is a creative art, and we believe genAI should not be used to generate (in whole or in part), revise, or edit fanfic.* Moreover, since our fandom is unique in that we have a dedicated fanfic archive where our wonderful team of volunteer GEs provides editing for submitted stories, we believe it is also unethical to require GEs to edit AI-generated content.

Therefore, moving forward, we will not be accepting or including fanfic in the Archive that was generated (in whole or in part), revised, or edited using genAI.* We know this is an emerging technology, and everyone may not understand the entirety of what genAI is nor its implications. So, please feel free to ask all the questions if you are unclear about whether the program or tools you are using for your writing incorporate genAI. You can contact us here, DM us, or email at EIC@lcfanfic.com, and we will be happy to help clarify.

*Please note, this is not referring to standard non-genAI spellcheck and grammar-check tools built into many programs, such as MS Word, Google Docs, Grammarly, and ProWritingAid; these features have been around for a long time and were not built by stealing the work of others. We are also not trying to gatekeep research or brainstorming processes. We are specifically referring to the use of genAI tools to write and/or rewrite text, including, but not limited to, ChatGPT and related genAI models to write, revise, or edit text; ProWritingAid’s Sparks, Rephrase, Critique Report, Manuscript Analysis, and Virtual Beta Reader features; and Grammarly’s AI, which can rewrite and revise text accordingly to style, tone, etc.

Links for more information

1. Currently ongoing lawsuits regarding genAI and copyright infringement

https://sustainabletechpartner.com/topics/ai/generative-ai-lawsuit-timeline/


2 Environmental impacts of genAI

a. https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117
b. https://nap.nationalacademies.org/download/29101

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What are people's opinions and rules on AI use such as Gemini and ChatGPT I have been using ChatGPT to help me with ideas and string sections together the plots are my own and I guide it scene by scene is this allowed

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Hi, thanks for asking! The archive team has recently made a statement on AI usage for fanfiction here. The short answer is, no, it's not allowed. For more detailed info, see the anti-AI statment here.

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This is disappointing but I understand I use it as I struggle with coming up with action plots but have stories going around in my head I need to get down and would like to get thoughts


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Sorry can I get clarification can I post on the boards if stating that I use ai I am about half way through a story I don't want to achieve it I would just like to get feed back I have dyslexic tendencies and being assessed for ADHD which explains my obsessive need to get my ideas down ChatGPT has helped me with this as I am sure it has for many neurodivergant writers who struggle with writers block


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Just wanted to let you know that we're discussing clarification and will get back to you on that soon! But 2/3rds of the team are distracted by American Thanksgiving today, so I wanted to let you know we haven't forgotten!

Side question: I would like to merge this thread with the main AI announcement thread so that, if other folcs have similar questions, all the information and public discussion is in one place. Is that okay with you?

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Something to keep in mind is that AI detectors can sometimes call something AI when it isn't. I ran a very old story of mine--written around 2000--through an AI detector and it identified several passages that were supposedly AI. Of course, ChatGPT etc. didn't exist in 2000, and I'd rather do my own thinking and writing, thank you very much. So, if an AI detector says the work is AI, check with the author. Sometimes the AI checkers are as dumb as the AI itself.


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Originally Posted by Annie B.
Something to keep in mind is that AI detectors can sometimes call something AI when it isn't. I ran a very old story of mine--written around 2000--through an AI detector and it identified several passages that were supposedly AI. Of course, ChatGPT etc. didn't exist in 2000, and I'd rather do my own thinking and writing, thank you very much. So, if an AI detector says the work is AI, check with the author. Sometimes the AI checkers are as dumb as the AI itself.

Annie B—We completely agree with you that AI checkers are very fallible! And we don’t want to start witch hunts or make unsubstantiated accusations or anything.


We would like to ask all FoLCs (not directed at you, Annie!🫶), please:



DO NOT run anyone’s fanfic through AI, even as a checker! This is feeding it to the AI, which will then learn from content which was given without the author’s consent!

Clarifications for RSF's question still forthcoming (real life abounds).

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