Wrong Place, Wrong Time, Wrong Clark TOC can be found Here

It's a good thing that Lois doesn't get frustrated easily.

Later: A couple of notes, since I'm now awake. /Note to self: try to post earlier as opposed to later in the evening./ Firstly, the scene with Luthor was my attempt to find meaning behind canon Lois's acceptance of Luthor's proposal. Secondly, according to Wikipedia , 9-1-1 system in the United States came online nationwide in 1968.

Comments appreciated.

So that would put this about the late 1960s at the latest. Quite honestly I'm having a mental image of the 50s.

Alt-Clark is learning the rule of time travel ettiquette.

1) Never mention discrepancies between universes in time.

Looks like HG doesn't do a very good job keeping secrets from Alt-Clark.

Alt-Clark: *sarcastically* Thanks for the reminder.

At least that last part is universal.

I wonder how she'd react if she found out that wasn't an option...at least it isn't if she wants to live a long, long time (supposedly.)

Christina: Thanks for reading and commenting.
According to Wikipedia, 9-1-1 went Nationwide in 1968. Lex said that his folks died prior to that, so it *could* have been the 50s. If Lex was the same age as Perry (hypothetically), he would have been born in 1944. It's rumored that his parents died when he was a pre-teen, so let's add 10-12 years, so that would be 1954-1956. Good guess.

CLARK: Er... Lois... Perhaps you misunderstood me...

Thanks for the comments.

He could, but he just doesn't have as strong of a will as Martha Kent or Lois, I guess.

So, ya think Clark should tell her about the curse, so she'd suddenly change her mind about marrying him?

I just had a sudden thought about this scene:

Doesn't HG have the soul tracker? Wouldn't he be able to find out if it is, indeed Clark reincarnated? Also this:

from the previous chapter stuck with me.

The Lois from that world wasn't good for the Alt-Clark, even if she was saved. I want to think that she was re-incarnated and is making up for her sins (whatever they are) in the previous incarnation. Should "Sister/Mother Lois" meet Padre Carlos, I suspect the match would be complete. Unlike their "sibling soulmates" however I suspect their relationship would remain of the chaste variety. There is more than one kind of love after all.

Time travel and alt-universes makes my brain leak out of my ears.

Which makes it that much easier to lie about everything he is saying.

And she believes the liar and murderer is now telling the truth why?

Gag at her giving encouragement to the liar.

Herb? No, sirree.

CLARK: I'm a little confused how one would be able to *almost* do that. Where is the line between almost and consummation, exactly? Can someone draw me a diagram?
Since the soul tracker takes someone back to the previous incarnations of that soul, he would have to find the next obvious True Clark soul in this dimension (in the future) and track back to Padre Carlos. He can't track Carlos's soul back because Herb can't go back further than May 1966 in this dimension due to the broken timeline. Good idea, though. (You had me sweating there for a minute.)

True. Keep in mind that what Herb considers "unredeemable", being a man from the 19th century, may very well be different from what Clark thinks or knows a modern day woman can survive or come back from. If you recall from "Another Lois", Herb thought that this Lois truly had gone insane due to losing her Clark, which is why he thought bring Alt-Clark here would be beneficial to both of them.

Then, again, Herb knows Alt-Lois's circumstances far better than you. /And I know them far better than him. the spoilage police are crossing their arms and giving me the evil eye.

Kismatt: Thanks for popping in to comment.
I'm right there with you. Sometimes, I think she's in league with Luthor and Trask.

John: Ooooh. More comments. I should be shaking in my slippers knowing how much you *love* (not) Lois and Lex scenes.

He could be telling the truth.

In the moment, yes. Give her a few minutes.

He could be telling the truth. Not everything Lex says is a lie.*

*A/N: When I write this, I'd like it known that I mean that Lex's character both lies and tells the truth, not that he is doing either one or the other here.

Thanks for your Lex Bashing... er... comments.

Was she having the postman on the kitchen table?

He sure does not sound like a very nice husband, does he?
LEX: Ari was right. Always show your chosen bride that she could pick much worse than you. That way, she’ll appreciate what she has in you.
LOIS: A ticket to the Pulitzer when I nail his sorry behind to a prison wall?

Very convenient story.
LEX: Right?

Isn’t this romantic? Just like Richard Gere and Julia Roberts when they first met

Boring? So boring she’d hook up with Tempus to get out of there?

LEX: /marks check box/

Minus the steaming sex scenes?

Well…duh! His lips are moving.

Yes, but that’s just because he wanted to possess her.

Normal alpha-crimimale behavior?

If she’s in the air, cavorting with another man, then that’s her fault?

Insurance fraud.

Yes, but it would still be best if she didn’t anger him under those circumstances.

Does she really want to hand Lex a paperbag filled with some dog droppings?

Well, it’s not got a pure Lois, either, so…

LEX:

Couldn’t Herb put Clark into the right time in his own dimension after his replacement-love-of-his-live has passed on?

Herb’s got to have a hobby, too?

EPRAD DUDS: See? What we said with Nightfall!

Is that what you call secret romps on the washing machine?

Before she married Clark, she was a bit of a golddigging skank shacking up with various rich dudes.

Need a mouth wash?

Yes, but in this day and age, engaged-to-be-married couples often engage in married activities together. Sometimes, even with other people than those they’re engaged to be married-to, too.
SCORCERER’S SKANK: Just *one* time. That he caught me.

LEX:

Well…the victor usually does write the history books…
TEMPUS: What really happened: Lex Luthor found out that his bride and wife-to-be had repeated carnal knowledge with an upstart and he was so distraught over this breach of etiquette that he threw himself off the balcony of his palace.

So… they will not consummate for many, many, many years, decades even?

Michael

Darth Michael: Thanks for stopping in before (or in the midst of) your GoT marathon to catch up before the new episodes start (I'm guessing this coming week).
LOIS: A momentary lapse, I assure you.
LEX: That's what they ALL say.

While he son was there? No, reading a magazine.

Well, he raised Lex to be the man he became...
ELLEN: Sounds like all the husbands I've encountered in my life.
LOIS: Mom!
There's worse than Lex?

Well, he did say he was orphaned, and it would be too convenient if his folks died in the same way as alt-Clark's did.
TEMPUS: Not really.

LEX: /shrugs/ What can I say? I know how to woo women.

MET STAR HEADLINE: "Up and coming ghost writer fished out of Hob's Bay. Foul play suspected."

LOIS: Lex, why are you taking off your pants?

CLARK: Phew. As long is doesn't come in glowing green.

Hmmmm. I think I misinterpreted those smilies.

CLARK: Not "horny". Jealous! And I know she's only faking it. She told me she would lie to Lex.
LEX: And you're taking the word of a liar that she's only lying to me? priceless!

LOIS: It only counts IF I marry him, which I'm not going to do.

Nah. Boring? Doubt it, she's dating Superman.
SUPERMAN: Not for long if she kisses that guy. I know where his lips have been.
LEX: At least, I don't kiss butt.

I was just trying to find reason why canon Lois would give up all her control to such a jerk.

LOIS: Yeah. Except for that.

LEX: Why does everyone think I'm incapable of telling the truth about anything?
CLARK: Experience?
EW: Lex isn't lying about everything.

You say that like it's a good thing.

CLARK: Didn't work though, did it?

LOIS: He's *rescuing* me!

That could be one reason, but not the only one.

Has she done anything to anger Lex?

CLARK:

Pizza once a week. Washing machine romps once a week.

DAN: I wasn't rich.

CLARK: Yes, please.

CLARK: Oh, now that's just cruel. I didn't need to know that. /hands Lois Kryptonite/ Just kill me now.

/RL dragging me out the door and into the sunshine. To be continued later.../

We didn't have 911 service in 1972, but it must have come soon after that.

I'm trying to decide if Wells means the technical definition of consummating their love or something else. That's where all my comments lie with regards to "almost consummating."

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I'm thinking I better take this comment over to the nfic section to be safe. Virginia, see me there.

-- Continuation of Response to Darth Michael's FDK --
HERB: Well, from a certain point of view.



Nope.

I love that paragraph.

Well, okay. I hadn't thought about that.
CLARK: Why would I be going to the Arctic? Oh, right. I'm secretly dating Lois, a woman I can NEVER consummate my relationship with.
POLAR BEARS: Stay away from us!

EW:

Meadowrose: Thanks for dropping in to comment.
I know that Wikipedia isn't perfect (it isn't even allowed as an online source for research papers in my kids' school), but according to that website the phone number became officially a national helpline in 1968 (and could not be used for other people). Being that 9-1-1 is funded locally means that the implementation of program would take longer to enact in some areas than in others. I'm guessing that major cities were the first to adopt and implement the system and then it filtered out to the less and less populated areas, depending on the resources said areas wanted to designate to the program. I know HERE (in my small rural town of 32K) we just voted to fund our EMTs for the next chunk of time (10 years, I think). I, personally, am one of these people who usually takes said services for granted and was shocked that it was still necessary to *vote* for funding for said programs. That's like asking voters whether we should pay for firemen and policemen. It's like a given in my mind. Apparently not around here. I guess that's why I'm still considered a "newbie" here after 10 years of residency.

Thanks for your comments.

At one point (before leaving for Nightfall, I believe), I had Clark consider in his mind whether or not it was worth the risk, because the consequences would be too harsh for any wrong guess.

I'm curious to see what my Readers think should be the line that should not be crossed. Although, I have to admit I already have a vague idea where it will be.

Gag at her rewarding him for his lies.

Yes, especially when she has no evidence that her mother is still alive.

Total and complete lie. Why else did he try to kill off her boyfriend?

It's been made harder by Luthor's medling.

Only those with no freedom do not worry.

Gag.

Disguisting, grosse, horrible, awful, just down right wrong.

Lie. Total and complete lie.

She might have already managed to marry Clark.

Sounds like the total deprivation of all freedom.

So why is she letting him kiss her. This is very disturbing.

Try everything. He never speaks the truth at all.

He succedded in killing Menken in cold blood, because he had multiple contingency plans to do it.

Of coruse not, Luthor said it, it is a lie.

Sometimes she seems to have almost forgot this detail.

Any claim to love her is pure rubbish.

That alone should make her unable to be in his presence.

Exactly, he showed her nothing.

I would not be surprised if Ellen is dead.

Good, she finally realizes this.

Hopefully she now realizes Clark is right about what happened to both Monique Khan and Miranda.

Considering how they treated him when he came out, I see no reason for him to go back. Especially after Lana had the gall to sue him.

Maybe Herb should come back in 100 years than.

Yes! Clark is staying.

What they think they know might not be what they think it is.

He should. If it was not for Wells being an unbearable wrecker of everything, things might be much better now.

Rubbish. Wells knew just as much about the curse then as he does now.

Rubbish. Wells knows nothing of this. All he is doing is spouting rubbish.

Not when Wells visits.

Now I dislike Wells even more. It seems he was banking on that and hoping to get Clark to leave at such a low time.

But she backed out on her own without having learned anything of Luthor's evil, because she realized she loved Clark.

Of course he did Clark. Did you actually think Wells was your friend?

Some things in canon looked a lot like dates to me. Like their trip to the "Magic of the Nght Ball".

Shows what Wells knows. She said an emphatic "no" at the altar.

Clark raised an eyebrow.

OK, good for Clark to hear that.

That isn't even possible.

Clark you have your own Lois, stop being greedy and wanting them all to love you.

I am glad that Clark knows that Lois backed out because she loved Clark (and not because of Superman). Although since he does not know when canon Lois learned CK=SM, he doesn't technically know that.

I think he is underestimating how much Lois will want to celebrate on that day.

Clark: No matter how much she wants to celebrate that day, I can put it off without bringing up the curse.

There are also some things Lois needs to tell more clearly to Clark.

Well there was the vow to save Carlos's life.

But she backed out because she always loved you more Clark.

More lkely [b]lie[/] about how his parents died.

Gag at such intimacy.

CLARK: Um, Lois, we need to cool things off because I made a vow to remain celibate until we're married when I was praying for God to save my friend's life, and I intend to keep that vow.

LOIS: No problem, the courthouse should be open in 6 hours.

CLARK: Oh, well, about that, um, there's another little problem…

LOIS:

You have no recidivism if none of the patients live to leave, due to having gone crazy while on the inside.

Yes, he pleading is paying off.

Sadness at no Clark.

Sadness.

Gag.

Skip it, skip it, skip it.

Good, now Mrs. Cox knows that Luthor does not confide in her about everything.

Lois: I wonder if he told her about his bunker plan.

All the more reason she should refuse to go.

It would be special with Clark?

But Lois was true to Clark in all ways all through the Revenge time. Although her going on the date with Luthor at that point really didn't look like being true to Clark.

Yes, Lois is starting to consider marrying Clark. We are making progress.

I so hope we learn what the note said.

Clark: Well, I wouldn't expect that after you get pregnant.

Yes, she is focusing on the most important things.

Considering what happened while Lois was under revenge before Herb showed up, well, I guess that still gives some leeway.

I'm pretty sure they have 24-hour wedding chapels in Las Vegas. Considering how fast Superman flies, that means he has less than 6 minutes time in that state.

Of course right now Lois says she is not willing to marry, even if she wants a much closer relationship with Clark.

John: Thank you for the extra FDK.

There's also no evidence that her mother has been harmed in any way.

LEX: Jealousy. It's a natural emotion.

I doubt they are the only ones. I should hope that there are some people out there with both.

Why don't you just tell me how you feel about Lex, instead of holding back? Touche`!

Oh, sure, when you put a negative twist on it.

Because Lex would be suspicious of a fiancee who wouldn't let him kiss her.

That's really a difficult thing to accomplish.

Details. Details.

So, you think he actually was trying to shoot Lois at the time?

It's what drove her to go undercover in the first place.

Well, for Lex he likes her a whole heck of a lot.

So, she should let her personal feelings get in the way of her job as an investigator?

She also had no proof that he was holding her mother hostage.

LEX: And this would be a bad thing? My bad.

LOIS: So, great, Clark was right and I've been wrong this whole time? No, sorry, I cannot admit to that.

Most people adored and worshiped Superman, but it was those few bad seeds who invaded his privacy and tried to ruin his life...

So, you think Lois will live to be 127?

The consequences in making a wrong guess would be terrible ones indeed.

I guess that shows that Clark is a better man than others.

Yes, but he didn't know it would be impossible to cure.

Nah. More of an educated guess.

Herb's still getting used to the differences between this universe and canon, despite roughly the same start.

But he had no reason to believe that Lois would still engage herself to Luthor at that time.

Unless it is stated as a "date" it isn't anything more than two people going somewhere as friends.

He's not being greedy. A part of him is a bit envious on how easy canon Clark had it.

He's over the whole love my Clark side first. He's just happy that she loves him at all.

They have put off discussing many things because of lack of time and true privacy. Even if there were no curse, Clark wouldn't be ready for that next step.

LOIS: Why does everyone think that I'm sex crazy? He has a lot of explaining to do to me too!

LOIS: And vice versa!

This Clark isn't used to be the one more loved.

LEX: Gee, tell one lie and everyone thinks you're incapable of telling the truth about anything.

-- Continuation of Response to John's FDK -- True, but you'd have no testimonials or referrals either. I'm sure regulators might notice that kind of lack of success rate as well. (I should hope.)

And angering Lex now would do her or her mother good, how?

MRS. COX: But... But... But...

MRS. COX: What bunker?

You have an interesting interpretation of lulling Lex into a false sense of safety.

LOIS: Uh... did I say that? Well, it couldn't be LESS special.

CLARK: Sold!

I don't believe Lois saw it as a "date" per se.

CLARK: Wow! That's quite a turnabout. I was hoping for a long engagement, like 50 years.

LOIS: Pregnant women can't get horny?
CAT: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Considering what happened while Lois was under revenge before Herb showed up, well, I guess that still gives some leeway. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They didn't get much further than second base during Revenge.
CLARK: Lois might hear you!
LOIS: Clark, I was there. I know what happened.
CLARK: You do? OH.

I think they're pretty well known for them.

After dealing with Lex's wedding plans, she might not want to tie herself down quite so quickly. Plus, someone would have to propose the idea, and after the last time, I doubt it's high on Clark's to-do list.

Thanks for your comments.

Colleen: She's caught up!
Well, that's one possibility. Thanks for reading.

I can't imagine where we'd get such an idea. I mean, it's not like you're daydreaming at work about when you will get to "tear his clothes off of him in a fit of unbridled passion" or anything.


Glad to be caught up, and I have to say I'm enjoying the comment threads almost as much as the story.

LOIS: Oh, did you read my mind? Oh, dear. Has Lex bugged my mind now too? NOBODY should have access to that!

Thanks. Sometimes when the storyline gets too heavy, this is a good place to blow off steam and get a few chuckles in at the same time.

Michael