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Posted By: VirginiaR FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:19 AM
Wrong Place, Wrong Time, Wrong Clark TOC can be found Here

So, well, um... er... comments? laugh

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Posted By: Ultra Woman Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 10:36 AM
How do you spell lunkhead? Oh, yes, C-L-A-R-K K-E-N-T. [Linked Image]

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How could he explain to her that Clark Kent was his name? He just wasn’t the Clark Kent from this dimension, but he had no proof of that. He had to convince her somehow that he wasn’t lying to her about his feelings. He just wasn’t sure how.
He should try telling the truth. If she believes he is a strange visitant from another planet, why wouldn't she believe he came from another dimension? mad Does he think Lois is so obtuse that she wouldn't understand time travel and multi-dimensions? razz Martha and Jonathan didn't know him, he didn't have any proof, he took their's son identity without asking them and even so they believed him. If simple farmers could understand multi-dimensions and alt-worlds, why couldn't a brilliant and intelligent reporter? [Linked Image]

And correct me if I am wrong, but what I have gathered so far is that he wants to marry Lois but never tell her the truth about his dimension, about his true Lois and canon Lois, because "she wouldn't believe it". [Linked Image]


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“Is it?” Lois snapped, and Clark’s stomach sunk even lower. She leaned so her face was a mere inch from his face and hissed, “Superman.”
I was right. A long time ago I said he would never tell her. He didn't. frown She found out by herself and even when he found out she knew, he didn't tell anything. She had to tell him that she knew. sad

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Posted By: mrsMxyzptlk Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:09 PM
Lois is an idiot. Sure, Clark needs to just tell her his real background, and that would alleviate some of their problems, but most of their problems stem from her not telling him anything and expecting him to read her mind. How is he supposed to know that she actually loves him? He can't just go by her telling him, "I love you; trust me." He has to go by her actions. She claimed that she didn't want to be seen dating Clark, and she dates Luthor and wears expensive gifts from him. And now she's considering accepting his proposal. She can't expect Clark to know that she's going undercover "for his own good" because she never gave him any indication of it. She's not giving Clark her reasons why she would accept Luthor's proposal, either. All she's doing is saying that she knows how she feels about him, not what those feelings are. She should have started off by saying, "I've been dating Lex to get him to trust me because I'm investigating him, and I've gotten in over my head. He asked me to marry him, and I'm considering it because I think I can get more information out of him if I play the fiancee for a while, but of course I'd never actually marry the creep."

Her conversation with Perry is particularly telling. Perry is pretty sensible, but he's lost all influence over her. Lois is just off in her own little world where she thinks everything she does is a sacrifice for the greater good and she's such a martyr who is going to single-handedly save everyone. She's in over her head, and she's too full of herself to acknowledge it. She claims that Clark stole her story. How can he possibly have stolen her story when her boss didn't know she was working on it? And how hypocritical is she to be upset at Clark for investigating Luthor without telling her?

And how can she legitimately get upset at Clark for not telling her that he's Superman when she knows that he tried to tell her several times, but she stopped him and told him not to?

Sure, Clark has made a mistake here and there, but it seems that everything Lois does makes things worse for herself and everyone around her. It would serve her right if she ends up walking down the aisle to Lex. She's making her bed; she's going to have to sleep in it. Superman can't save her from everything.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:24 PM
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“No, that’s where…”

Superman had dumped her.
Lois:No, I menat "that is where you dumped me." I know the secret.

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She hadn’t needed to say the words, because both she and Clark knew what they were.
Lois:But if I had said them, Clark would probably realize I knew the truth, and maybe those listening in on this conversation would as well.

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Breaking up with Lois as Superman had not only been the stupidest thing he had ever done,
Actually, he should have told her the full truth earlier.

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and something for which he would be lucky if she ever forgave him,
Which is why he should have told her sooner, so he can get forgiven.

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but it had also been one of the most painful experiences of his life in this new dimension.
It was really not a bright idea. He should have told her his secret then.

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He had once thought it necessary for love to blossom between Lois and Clark, but now he wasn’t as convinced of that.
She was already starting to love Clark more. He needs to stop trying to force her feelings.

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Clark arrived less than one minute after their phone call and ended up waiting an hour for Lois.
I am surprised he did not go check on her progress as SM.

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It felt as if it had been a week since he’d seen her.
It has been six days right.

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It had been a week, the longest week of his life and he had experienced many long weeks in his life.
If he only knew how long the next few weeks will be.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:29 PM
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Seeing Lois felt like a breath of fresh air for Clark.
party they are together. We are doing our last hurrah of happiness.

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She didn’t seem at all like her usual confident self, though.
I wish he would focus more on why this is.

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blaming the fact that she had left her watch at home
party party No watch.

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She had said in her message that something had gone wrong in one of her investigations and that she had wanted to talk to him about it.
Clark, focus on what she wants.

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It couldn’t have been that bad, could it? She would have mentioned something over the phone when they talked during the last few days, wouldn’t she have?
Not if she thinks her phone is bugged.

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If it had been that important, she wouldn’t have left it up to a couple of cryptic messages, would she have?
They really need to get secure email accounts that they can send each other messages on.

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He should have come home to check on her.
Yes, yes he should have. Which in some ways makes Lois's anger at him even less understandable. She is mad at him because he did not run to her when she called, but she has gotten mad at him so many times for it, he is trying to do better.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:39 PM
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she could see through it to the LNN building across the street from Centennial Park.
Is there no where in Metropolis free from Lex's all-seeing eye.

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She immediately turned away from the carousel and headed deeper into the park, mumbling, “This was a bad idea, a very bad idea.”
Clark, offer to take her somewhere private and safe.

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It was only ten o’clock in the morning, but still Lois refusing chocolate, let alone chocolate ice cream, was as unheard of as Perry admitting that Elvis was a so-so singer and bad showman.
party at least he understands the truth about Lois.

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One thing he was sure of though, he was thankful, not to mention optimistic, that she didn’t want to explode her fury in too public a place.
But they still are in the park. He really should ask if she would like to go to his apartment so they can actually speak without being overheard.

I have to say that in WHALTTA they did way too much talking out in the open.

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Since Lois knew of his dual life, it was well past time for him to tell her.
I wish he would be more open about what is going on.

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If he were able to get the words out before she did, then she would realize, at the very least, that he wanted her to know and had decided to tell her on his own, and not because she had discovered his secret.
So, he thinks SM was her investigation, and SM=CK was her discovery? He thinks that is what she wants to talk about.

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“Lois…” Clark began his admission of not being from Kansas originally, but Lois spoke his name at the same time. “Clark…”
wallbash they are both too focused on their own concerns.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:46 PM
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They looked at one another and then spoke in unison again. “Do you mind if I go first?” he said as she said, “I need to go first.”
Clark, she said need, let her go first.

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“Lois, there’s something I’ve been meaning to say to you for a long time and I really think…” Clark said, before she started walking again.
Now that was just plain rude on her part.

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“Lex proposed,” she whispered when he caught up.
dance touching. OK, maybe I am a bit crazy, but I am trying to squeeze any joy I can out of this part.

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Lois waved her hands around her face as if swatting at flies, and he let go.
frown she is being more forceful in ending contact with Clark than with Lex.

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“What do you think I said?” she snapped. “I told him I needed time to think about it. What else could I say to such a man?”
Clark:How about "no", "never", "not in a million years". Things like that.

Lois:But he might have gotten angry and killed me.

Reader:Oh, this would have been such a better way to go.

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He placed his hand against a tree as he felt his entire body physically wince in pain.
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It was as if her words had pierced his skin with a piece of sharp Kryptonite, making his head spin and it difficult for him to breathe.
frown and also he is not listening or thinking. He knows Lex is an evil man who will kill, so he really does know Lois can feel unsafe.

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She had walked on and then, upon realizing that he wasn’t keeping pace, returned. “Clark, you need to keep up. I…” She glanced around again.
She really, really should stop to consider what is happening to Clark, and why he is reacting so.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:53 PM
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“Let’s get through that section of the park. It will open up into a large field. On the other side of the field are the backgammon and chess boards. We can talk more privately there.”
2 minutes later

Lois:How was I supposed to know the North Metropolis High School chess team would be playing games and the Central Atlantic Backgammon championship would be both happening here this morning?

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Clark nodded absently in agreement. He tried to buck himself up by thinking, ‘At least, she didn’t say ‘yes’. Then again,’ his brain had instantly responded. ‘She didn’t say ‘no’ either.’
wallbash he needs to remember that it was to him she mentioned a desire to be handcuffed, not to Lex.

Clark:But many women marry a man other than who they love.

Reader:Do you really think Lois would do such.

Clark:Well, no, but I also didn't think Lois would be so quick to run off because of some expensive peace of jewelry, and I didn't think she would abandon her date at the magic of the night ball. But she did those things.

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As they walked, Lois’s anxiety turned to nervous chatter. “Do you think I expected this? I didn’t. This was the last thing I expected from him.
He really should stop and ask for clarification.

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make me regret that decision more than I already do, Lois,” Clark mumbled.
frown

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It's never wrong to save someone’s life, Clark,”
wallbash she isn't listening at all.

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she reassured him with a pat of his arm. “It’ll turn out all right in the end.”
Clark:So, you think it will be right if you are married to Luthor?

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Clark was having difficulty believing her.
He really should ask more questions.

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“So, this is why I called you,” Lois said as they neared the game tables. “I need your help, your unbiased advice, Clark.
wallbash wallbash wallbash wallbash How does she even think her boyfriend can give her unbiased advice on this. It makes no sense.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 01:57 PM
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Partner to partner.
wallbash somehow I don't think Clark is really listening.

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I’m not sure what I should do. I mean, I know what I should do.
wallbash If she knows, then why is she even asking Clark. This makes no sense, especially to him.

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This is a once in a lifetime opportunity that I will never get again.
Clark:To marry? To marry a rich man?

wallbash Clark should really ask her directly.

Although, it really does seem she is saying "this is my one chance to marry, if I say no, I might never get another chance". At least based on what Clark knows.

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I know how I feel about him and what I want to do.
wallbash because Clark does not cut in with "how do you feel about him?" and "What do you want to do". wallbash at Clark's stupid rush assumptions.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 02:07 PM
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On the other hand, I know what he thinks of you, and what you think of him.
Clark:So are you just trying to make me jealous. What is you point in telling me this?

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I don’t know how to meld these two contradictory parts warring inside of me.”
This really does make it sound like she has positive feelings for Lex despite the negative feelings that Clark has towards him. Even knowing what I do, that is still the only way the last line makes sense.

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She laced her fingers together and shook them in the air. “Oh, Clark, I’m totally flummoxed, and that’s not a feeling I like. I need you to look at this clearly for me.
hyper Clark let her. Let her speak again and clearer.

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Clark didn’t know how much more explanation he could take.
wallbash lunkhead, let her speak.

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Did he want to hear how Lois had fallen in love with Lex?
wallbash has she said one word of love. Has she praised anyone but you Clark. Listen to what she actually says.

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No. Did he want to hear how marrying Lex would also be good for her career, because of his connections? Nope.
wallbash Clark stop assuming.

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Did he want to hear how she loved Clark, but how Lex would be a much better match for her because of his social status and wealth? Certainly not.
wallbash stop treating Lois as if she is super shallow Clark. She fell in love with you as Clark, not just you as Superman. She loves you. Aargh, why can't he see that.

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Taking Lois’s elbow, Clark led her to a nearby bench and invited her to sit down.
wallbash at Lois for not trying to start he explanation again.

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He felt he must do something, but he wasn’t quite sure what.
wallbash Clark, you don't have to do anything. Action is not what Lois needs now. She needs a friend to listen to her concerns. Be that friend Clark.

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He knew he had to say something or she would make the biggest mistake of her life,
wallbash No Clark, there is nothing you can do to make things better except listening to her.

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and marry a murderer.
Then tell her to not marry the murdered.

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Finally, he came to a decision.
wallbash at Lois for sitting quietly and letting him do this, when she said she needed to start over.

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He would tell her the truth and let her make an informed decision.
wallbash at his off the wall understanding of what "the truth" is.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 02:19 PM
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Unfortunately, clarity and word choice failed him. “This isn’t how or when I wanted to do this,” he told her.
wallbash He is going to do something stupid.

Reader:Clark if it isn't "how" or "when" you want, then just plain don't.

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“But there is something I need to say.”
wallbash He is going to do something so stupid, he will be lucky if Lois ever forgives him.

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Lois looked up at him with a torn expression. He could see anticipation, as if she knew what he was about to do, as well as a hint of panic in her eyes. Additionally, her heartbeat increased.
Considering their actual experience, and the clothes she brought to the Lexor, it makes sense that Lois might expect what is coming.

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One would think he had never done this before. Then he realized he hadn’t… well, not quite like this, not with Lois.
Why is he such a lunkhead?

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Lois nodded. “Okay. Fine. Spill it. Let’s get this over with.” She waved him on.
Clark, just stop. Just stop. Think before you act.

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Clark paused as he gazed at Lois. He knew that this would be difficult, being that she was already in shellshock due to Luthor’s proposal, but he had to try.
No, no you don't.

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If he didn’t speak up and tell her now, he would regret it for the rest of his life.
No, he will be glad for not being a total lunkhead.

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He discovered he was staring at her once again. He turned his face up to the light blue sky and hoped a small dose of sunshine would give him the courage to speak the words he had wanted to say since he first met Lois.
Then tell her that Clark, tell her "I have wanted to do this for months, but I knew I should wait longer, but with things going how they are now, I fear I will never get a chance."

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He only wished Luthor hadn’t forced his hand, as this wasn't the way he wanted to do this.
Then don't do it Clark. Oh why, why is he such a lunkhead?

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Clark took another steadying breath, more nervous than he had been the day he had “proposed” to Lana.
wallbash This is a horrible plan.

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‘Promises should never be given lightly,’ he could remember his mother saying to him.
Then don't ask for them lightly either. Oh, this is such a trainwreck.

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Now that Clark thought about it, Lana never gave the ring back after she broke up with him due to his becoming Superman, either.
Well, at least that means he does not have it here to use as a stand in ring.

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When he still hadn’t said anything after a minute, Lois smiled at him with encouragement, sending a new course of butterflies through his stomach. He could do this.
wallbash Lois, don't encourage him.

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Clark took Lois’s hands in his. “I have loved you since the first moment I saw you. You are intelligent and brave and beautiful and selfless and funny, a true friend and partner.”
Clark, stop, just stop. She is in shock. You have surprised her too much.

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He wished her announcement hadn't knocked him sideways and that he had the time to fly out to Smallville to discuss or practice this spur-of-the-moment speech with Martha.
Clark, there is always time.

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“This isn’t the right time, or the right place, or the manner in which I would want to do this, Lois.
wallbash this is a horrible plan.

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Yet, I cannot – in good conscience – let you
wallbash wallbash wallbash wallbash wallbash wallbash This is just a horrible line. Clark, you have no control over her actions.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 02:25 PM
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make the biggest mistake of your life without putting my two cents in,” Clark continued, before kneeling down before her.
This is such a stupid idea.

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“Lois Lane, will you make me the happiest man in the universe and agree to be my wife?”
This was such a horrible idea.

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Her jaw fell open.
Clark, you just failed, totally.

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He had always wondered what she’d be like stunned speechless and he guessed he now knew.
Bakctrack Clark, just backtrack.

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Finally, her mouth closed and when it reopened, she asked, “You’re asking me to marry you?”
frown she just crushed his heart, totally.

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Clark’s heart crumbled. He knew a ‘no’ when he heard one. “I will be a much better husband than Lex Luthor.
wallbash wallbash wallbash Clark, just stop, stop. You are making things worse.

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I know that you love me,
Lois:If you knew that, then why are you acting so rashly?

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or that you once did before we started in on this whole ‘pretending that we aren’t involved’ ruse.
wallbash Things are getting worse.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 02:34 PM
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If you want to get married so badly, why not choose me?”
hyper he loves her.

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As Lois closed her eyes for a count of ten, that muscle in her jaw tensed. She opened her eyes, pulled him off his knee, and drew him onto the bench beside her. “No, Clark, you don’t,”
frown this is horrible.

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she said, her voice sounding rough. He could see the sparkle of unshed tears in her eyes.
Clark you failed.

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“A man doesn’t tell the woman he loves that the only reason he’s proposing is so that she doesn’t make the ‘biggest mistake of her life’ by marrying someone else.”
He really should point out that that was not his only reason, just the catalyst to act now.

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She stood up, and Clark recognized the anger coursing through her as she began to pace. “A man cannot claim to love a woman when all he has ever done is lie to her.”
That is not fair. To confuse acting undercover with lying is just not fair.

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“That’s not true,” he sputtered, getting to his feet in the need to defend his integrity. “I don’t lie to you.”
wallbash Clark, just stop making it worse.

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“Or whoever you really are? First off, Clark Kent isn’t your real name.
wallbash this is so horrible.

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I have no idea what your real name is,
That is because you Lois have been too focused on Luthor, and not the man who really matters.

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but you and I sure as hell know you weren’t born Clark Jerome Kent from Smallville, Kansas.
But that is how I was raised. It is just as real as any other child adopted nearly at birth's name.

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How could he explain to her that Clark Kent was his name?
Just tell her Clark.

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He just wasn’t the Clark Kent from this dimension, but he had no proof of that.
Start by explaining it. Maybe then she will believe.

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“Okay, so maybe I’m not the son of the Martha and Jonathan Kent you met when we went to Smallville, but I might as well be. I care for them as much as I did my own folks.
This is still a horrible way to explain things. It only says "they are like my parents" to those who know the truth. To Lois, it is empty platitudes, because this is the man who saved Luthor.

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That person who you work with, talk to, and joke with, that is truly who I am. That is the real me.”
frown that Lois does not believe this.
Posted By: KatherineKent Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 02:42 PM
Ye, you got them talking ... which is what we all wanted. BUT you didn't get it right. They talked about all the wrong stuff, it was horrible. NO!

Clark made a real mess of his reveal/proposal. He was going to tell her and it all would have been fine, but he went off on an absolute tangent with his proposal. And Lois ... I think she majorly over reacted. She's known about Clark, and come to terms with it, for a long time now. She acted as if she'd only just figured it out.

ARGH. They can't get it right at all. I'm guessing that is because the are NOT right for each other. He is the WRONG Clark.

I know we are all probably rooting for them to get together and have a 'happily ever after' but I'm getting the feeling that it's not going to happen. Especially as this is only part 2 of a trilogy. I think that the real Clark is going to come back in part 3 somehow.

Does that mean there will be a time 'reset' again, because, even though this Lois and Clark are NOT soulmates, they HAVE fallen in love. To split them up and bring back the real Clark, but Lois to keep her memory of Alt-Clark would be so horrible. And poor Alt-Clark. If you send him back home with his memory of TRULY being in love with a Lois Lane that will be even more cruel.

*Sigh* And I just realised that if I'm right then we have at least another 100 parts before the final happy ending in part 3 with real Clark and Lois, I guess.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 02:51 PM
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“Is it?” Lois snapped, and Clark’s stomach sunk even lower. She leaned so her face was a mere inch from his face and hissed, “Superman.”
frown this is the worst possible way for her to tell him.

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“I have no idea who you are!” Lois announced, throwing her hands into the air.
Now that is just unfair. She knows who he is. A kind, caring individual who loves her. His name is not part of that equation.

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all the while you pretended to be someone else, my friend,
Clark:What friend, you hated me then. You wanted to pretend to date me as Clark to be with me as Superman. You were the one who wanted to use me.

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my partner to my face,
Clark:I broke up with you as SM almost as soon as we were partners.

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and the person I turned to for comfort when I cried about how you…” She poked his chest with her index finger. “— in that costume, hurt me.”
Clark:I was the one who turned down your very attractive and high pressure attempt to get us to make love.

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Clark could say that he had wanted to tell her, many times, but what good would it do?
It can't hurt.

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He had tried to be honest about his feelings and that hadn’t worked.
Feelings alone are not everything. Lois has told him this before. That is what she told him in Smallville. He should have really listened.

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“Jealous much?”
frown this just cuts me up.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 03:23 PM
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He has committed crimes from murder, sabotage, and arson, to destruction of the environment.
smile1 he is speaking the truth. Although he should have smile1

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He funds medical experiments on children and he was the money behind Menken’s cyborg boxers. He routinely flouts laws and throws his successes in my face, in everybody’s face.”[Quote]

hyper he told her.

[Quote]The journalist in her emerged. “Why didn’t you tell me, Partner?”
hyper she called him partner.

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“I have no actual proof, Lois. No ‘hard facts’ as Perry always says we need. Luthor has multiple walls between him and everything he touches. Nothing leads back to him. I could come forward to tell Inspector Henderson what I have witnessed, but it would be just Superman versus humanitarian Lex Luthor,” he explained.
hyper he speaks of himself as Superman while dressed as Clark.

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“Nobody would believe me.” He only hoped that Lois would.
frown that her change in attitude won't reall help.

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“Why didn’t you tell me?” Lois repeated, her gaze sharp as if she knew the words he was about to say.
frown he just opened up to her about what he knows, and all she can do is accuse.

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“I did try to bring up the subject, Lois, and every time I did, you defended...”
It is true.

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She held up hand to stop him. “That’s not the real reason. What’s the real reason?”
He should fight her trap.

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Clark cleared his throat, before admitting, “I didn’t tell you because we thought you might be too close to him, Lois.”
Well, her constantly defending him made it seem that way.

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“And you didn’t know if you could trust me,” she finished his answer, her voice cold.
frown this is so unfair. Especially since he did just tell her.

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“You’re dating him.”
He has a real good point.

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Her lips pursed. “No, Chuck. I was dating you.
Hogwash. She never spent any time with him. She abandoned him on their one date in the last month. She broke up with him on his birthday. Hogwash.

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“I love you,
party she still loves him.

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“No, Lois,” he insisted, rising to his feet and setting his hands on her shoulders. “Clark really is who I am and I do love you.”
I wish she would believe him for once.

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“How can you say that you love me, when you don’t even know me?”
This is the worst line possible.

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You admitted to me that you don’t trust me.
No, he showed trust by telling her all he had on Luthor.

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You kept key facts of an investigation away from me.
He just told her all the key facts.

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You allowed me to continue to associate with someone while withholding information of his so-called true character.
Hogwash. He constantly tried to tell her, but anything he said she would fight back at him. He chose to avoid fights.

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Finally, you offered to marry me under the guise of stopping me from accepting another man’s proposal.
Clark:No, I offered to marry you because I love you Lois. I just rushed because of the proposal.

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“There is not a way you could have possibly phrased a proposal today, where I would have accepted it,” Lois went on.
Is she trying to crush his heart. She clearly is succeeding.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 03:45 PM
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“The jerk proposed!” she announced.
And she crushed his heart. She claims to be doing this for him, but I think it is mainly motivated by her own selfishness.

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“How could you?” she growled. “Clark said you gave him the story because I’m dating Lex. Why didn’t you trust me?”
Perry:I have on multiple occasions said I do not want employees with conflicts of interest.

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“Honey, I didn’t know of any investigation because you didn’t inform me. In fact, I thought you had dropped it, because I never received that interview you promised me after the White Orchid Ball,”
He has a really, really, really good point. So good, I think Lois should just apologize for being so rude.

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“And you shouldn’t expect those closest to you to read your mind,” he said. “If you keep us out of your loop, how are we to know what you’re doing?”
smile1 finally someone is speaking sense to her.

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Lois looked up to the ceiling. “Both of you know I’m dating Clark! As if I would ever choose Lex over him.”
Perry:How do we know that? The only dates we see you go on are with Luthor.

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“I told him to trust me!” she shouted, crossing her arms in a huff.
Perry:And then you flung yourself at a richer, more powerful man. What is he supposed to think?

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She shrugged demurely. “Clark wasn’t serious.”
Lois, you are blind.

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“Clark only proposed to give me a way out.
Perry:And you don't think he would take you to Vegas and marry you this afternoon if you were willing. Lois, that boy wants you in the worst way possible, of course he would do that.

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He didn’t even listen to me when I tried to explain why I’ve been meeting with Lex.
She really could have been more forceful in trying to explain.

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How many times did Lois have to tell Clark that she loved him before it sunk in?
Actions speak louder than words, and when her actions are dating Luthor, well.

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How often had she kissed him at work over the last month,
Not nearly enough.

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breaking her cover and risking Lex’s spy, whoever that might be, catching them?
People don't feel right about secret relationships, they want to let things be open in the light. If Clark was ok with secret relationships, they could have been making love all last summer. He hates secrecy, and wants to be open about his relationship with Lois.

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She had thought that Clark understood that she was putting her life, her wants, and her desires on hold for him,
How, she never said such. She said that she was confused by kissing Superman. She said it was to protect her. She manipulated him into not going public by saying if they did she would be in danger. She never said anything about protecting him.

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to find out who attacked him.
By making her not bait she was presenting this as a way to not meet the attacker.

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She had told him she was going undercover as someone who wasn’t dating him,
Actually, she never made this very clear.

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How much more clear did she have to get?
Well, it would really have helped if she told him what she was really doing.

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She knew more about presidential candidates than the two men who proposed marriage to her.
But she did know that Clark was Superman.

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“And if Lex was willing to break the law to spy on me, why wouldn’t he willing to murder my best friend,
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“By accepting his proposal,” Lois replied, heading towards the door of his office.
wallbash she is really crazy.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 03:49 PM
Actually, I have to say that this is no worse that in canon, and probably it is better than what happened in canon.

1-Lois loves Clark. In canon she thought she loved Lex. True, she realizes she is wrong, but that is a lot later.

2-No matter how stupid Clark was, he did not do anything as stupid as the "only a lead-lined robe will help" line.

So, while Clark did not get things right. I don't think he messed up anymore than canon Clark did.
Posted By: Kismatt Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/04/13 04:26 PM
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As they walked, Lois’s anxiety turned to nervous chatter. “Do you think I expected this? I didn’t. This was the last thing I expected from him. Well, maybe not the last thing. I didn’t expect he would jump onstage during a symphony orchestra performance of John Williams’s film scores and start to perform the ballet from Tchaikovsky’s ‘Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies’ in a pink tutu to the theme music to ‘Jaws’. So, other than that type of oddball behavior, this was the last thing I anticipated when he said he was grateful that I encouraged you to save his life last weekend.”
*tries to picture Lex in a tutu*

thumbsup Virginia!!

PS: Someone give John an aspirin - he's gonna need it after all that headbanging-into-brick-wall action....
Posted By: IolantheAlias Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/08/13 08:37 PM
I remember being blown away when I read this chapter during the beta.

Just wanted to re-read it to see if I'm still blown away.

Yep.

Awesome chapter.
Posted By: mrsMxyzptlk Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/11/13 12:24 PM
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“There is not a way you could have possibly phrased a proposal today, where I would have accepted it,” Lois went on.
Is Lois channeling Elizabeth Bennett here?
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/12/13 04:26 PM
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Lois pulled open the door and announced loud enough for everyone else in newsroom to hear,
I think this should be "everyone else in the newsroom".
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 10:19 AM
smile1 Yes, both were wrong and dealt with this meeting badly. I love the irony of two people who work in the communications field who are so bad at communicating themselves.

Ultra Woman: Thanks for dropping by to share your frustration at...
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How do you spell lunkhead? Oh, yes, C-L-A-R-K K-E-N-T.
CLARK: Really, I thought it was spelled L-O-I-S-L-A-N-E, my bad.

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He should try telling the truth. If she believes he is a strange visitant from another planet, why wouldn't she believe he came from another dimension? mad
Because he has no way to prove it, or back it up with any cold hard facts. For some people, aliens are more believable than inter-dimensional and time-travel. Plus, she told him 'why should she believe anything that came out of his mouth'. At this point and time, bringing it up will just sound like more lies (in his opinion).

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Does he think Lois is so obtuse that she wouldn't understand time travel and multi-dimensions? razz Martha and Jonathan didn't know him, he didn't have any proof, he took their's son identity without asking them and even so they believed him. If simple farmers could understand multi-dimensions and alt-worlds, why couldn't a brilliant and intelligent reporter? [Gaaa! - Love the smilie, BTW]
Actually, Martha and Jonathan had proof. They knew about the baby with the S-shield who arrived in 1966 via spaceship. They heard Jor-El tell Clark that the globe was attuned to him. Also, it explains why Superman chose a couple of farmers in Kansas as his pet project. Could Clark explain the same thing to Lois? Probably, once she calms down and is willing to listen or believe anything else he tells her.

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And correct me if I am wrong, but what I have gathered so far is that he wants to marry Lois but never tell her the truth about his dimension, about his true Lois and canon Lois, because "she wouldn't believe it". [Cave man - very mad - made club with kryptonite chunks to hit SM over head]
Or possibly he's knows that Lois *isn't* stupid and she'll remember his earlier teasing that he came to this dimension because of her. So, if he told her he came from Alt-Dimension, he knows he would have to tell her about alt-Lois and canon-Lois in his explanation of "why" he came, and he's afraid that Lois won't see that as a good thing.

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I was right. A long time ago I said he would never tell her. He didn't. sad She found out by herself and even when he found out she knew, he didn't tell anything. She had to tell him that she knew. [which made Lois a very angry woman]
Yeah, well, I tend to write stories where Lois always figures it out. I find it insulting to Lois's intelligence if Clark *has* to tell her.

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Lois isn't without fault, either. She is acting alone, in a harebrained scheme without a backup plan. She started this role "operation" to get Lex's kryptonite (as if he would be so stupid to show or give it to her [can you believe this woman?] ) and now she is going to accept his proposal to save the Planet, without evidences to support her claims. As as far as I see it, she has no proof that Luthor wants to buy the Planet. Research about the Daily Planet is not proof, considering he is a business man that owns a TV station and possibly has holdings in other media companies. She has gone too deep in this crazy plot and maybe she is beyond rescue. [realizes what this might mean for our beloved Mad Dog]
Yeah, well, she's known for her hunches and jumping into things without a plan or back-up. Her back-up here is Cat Grant, who has been (kind of) informed of Lois's plan. You have to also remember (though I haven't shown them recently) that Lois does have some memories of canon and Another Lois time-line, so part of her "logic" and gut-feeling on what Lex is up to comes from her psychic feelings.

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I believe they have so many problems because he isn't her Clark and she isn't his Lois. It's like they speak different languages. They talk and argue but one can't understand what the other is saying. They are never on the same page. sad
Ah. So, Andreia believes Lois and alt-Clark aren't soul mates. So, does that mean that can't forge out a happily-ever-after anyway? Thank you for your comments.
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 10:40 AM
And now for the other side... hyper

mrsMxyzptlk: Thank you for reading and your comments.
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Lois is an idiot.
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“There is not a way you could have possibly phrased a proposal today, where I would have accepted it,” Lois went on.
Is Lois channeling Elizabeth Bennett here?
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Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 10:55 AM
KatherineKent: Thank you for your comments.
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Ye, you got them talking ... which is what we all wanted. BUT you didn't get it right. They talked about all the wrong stuff, it was horrible. NO!
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Clark made a real mess of his reveal/proposal. He was going to tell her and it all would have been fine, but he went off on an absolute tangent with his proposal.
Yes, this conversation would have gone better if they each said what they had come there to say instead of reacting to what the other said.

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And Lois ... I think she majorly over reacted. She's known about Clark, and come to terms with it, for a long time now. She acted as if she'd only just figured it out.
Yes, she had forgiven Clark for not telling, she understood why, but then for him to propose without still having told her when she was giving him full opportunity to tell her... pushed her explode button.

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ARGH. They can't get it right at all. I'm guessing that is because the are NOT right for each other. He is the WRONG Clark.
Yes, they may not be a perfect fit, but does that mean without a lot of hard work (on both sides) they still cannot make it work?

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I know we are all probably rooting for them to get together and have a 'happily ever after' but I'm getting the feeling that it's not going to happen. Especially as this is only part 2 of a trilogy. I think that the real Clark is going to come back in part 3 somehow.
One of the reasons this story is so long is that I'm telling the ENTIRE story within Book 2. Book 3 is another adventure entirely, using these same characters, or at least, some of them. We will have a resolution of some sort by the end of Book 2.

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Does that mean there will be a time 'reset' again, because, even though this Lois and Clark are NOT soulmates, they HAVE fallen in love. To split them up and bring back the real Clark, but Lois to keep her memory of Alt-Clark would be so horrible. And poor Alt-Clark. If you send him back home with his memory of TRULY being in love with a Lois Lane that will be even more cruel.
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*Sigh* And I just realised that if I'm right then we have at least another 100 parts before the final happy ending in part 3 with real Clark and Lois, I guess.
Clark isn't real? evil
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 11:08 AM
Kismatt: Glad to see someone caught my humor in this part. wave


IolantheAlias: Hey, there! Thanks for popping in. notworthy
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I remember being blown away when I read this chapter during the beta.

Just wanted to re-read it to see if I'm still blown away.

Yep.

Awesome chapter.
[Linked Image] Awwww. Shucks. Thanks.

As I told Iolanthe when she first read this part, this scene and the one with Cat trying to convince Clark he's SM (from ASU) were the reason / inspiration for writing this story. The majority of this part (with some editing) was written before I finished writing Another Lois. It only took 139 parts but I finally got here. thud
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 11:40 AM
John: How's the headache? Any better? rotflol Did you hear that, Nigel? John thinks e-mail accounts are secure from us.

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Yes, yes he should have. Which in some ways makes Lois's anger at him even less understandable. She is mad at him because he did not run to her when she called, but she has gotten mad at him so many times for it, he is trying to do better.
Yes, he is getting better on the checking up on her and his over-protectiveness, but he still has a long way to go. Also, Lois's anger isn't always logical.

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Is there no where in Metropolis free from Lex's all-seeing eye.
Um.... no.

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Clark, offer to take her somewhere private and safe.
Yes, but Clark doesn't know what she's thinking.

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She really should ask Clark do to a looking around to see if anyone is following them.
LOIS: [Linked Image] Yes, that would have been good.

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no, the question is, "why was I such an idiot to think I could keep it a secret from Lois", you should have insisted on telling her when Wells knocked.
CLARK: /back during make-out session with Revenge-addled Lois/ Minha, I want nothing more than to make love to you, but I've got to go out for a meeting. While I'm out, why don't you just contemplate what it will be like making love to Superman. Okay? Bye-now.

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But they still are in the park. He really should ask if she would like to go to his apartment so they can actually speak without being overheard.
Canon Lois told canon Clark that she knew in a park. It's symbolic. laugh

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I have to say that in WHALTTA they did way too much talking out in the open.
Not just in WHALTTA.

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So, he thinks SM was her investigation, and SM=CK was her discovery? He thinks that is what she wants to talk about.
CLARK: Right. I forgot she wanted to talk to me about some investigation.

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[so frustrated that] they are both too focused on their own concerns.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

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Clark, she said need, let her go first.
But she's always interrupting him whenever he wants to tell her his secret. That has to stop sometime.

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Now that was just plain rude on her part.
Well, let's just say, Lois knows how to get what she wants.

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“Lex proposed,” she whispered when he caught up.
JOHN: [Argh!] she should not have started this way.
She wanted to get his attention and fast about how important what she had to say way. This did that.

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Clark:How about "no", "never", "not in a million years". Things like that.

Lois:But he might have gotten angry and killed me.

Reader:Oh, this would have been such a better way to go.
Well, Lex killing Lois would have definitely shortened the story, but then we wouldn't have gotten to my wonderful horrible scene.

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sadand also he is not listening or thinking. He knows Lex is an evil man who will kill, so he really does know Lois can feel unsafe.
Canon Lois never felt unsafe with Lex, because she never distrusted him. Lois hasn't shown that she distrusts Lex, so how will Clark know that she feels unsafe around him?

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She really, really should stop to consider what is happening to Clark, and why he is reacting so.
As you said it before, they are both self-absorbed with their own problems at the moment that they cannot think what the other one is going through.
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 12:32 PM
-- Continuation of response to John's FDK --
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2 minutes later

Lois:How was I supposed to know the North Metropolis High School chess team would be playing games and the Central Atlantic Backgammon championship would be both happening here this morning?
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he needs to remember that it was to him she mentioned a desire to be handcuffed, not to Lex.

Clark:But many women marry a man other than who they love.

Reader:Do you really think Lois would do such.

Clark:Well, no, but I also didn't think Lois would be so quick to run off because of some expensive peace of jewelry, and I didn't think she would abandon her date at the magic of the night ball. But she did those things.
It's hard to see things from someone's POV if one doesn't understand it.

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He really should stop and ask for clarification.
CLARK: Yes, I see. Hindsight is 20/20. Got that. Thanks.

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[so frustrated] How does she even think her boyfriend can give her unbiased advice on this. It makes no sense.
She's asking him to think about what she's saying as her "partner" not her "boyfriend". Another reason why dating at work isn't a good idea.

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somehow I don't think Clark is really listening.
CLARK: I think she said something like "Lex Proposed" and then, "Blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't say no. Blah, blah." At least. That's all my brain could comprehend.

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If she knows, then why is she even asking Clark. This makes no sense, especially to him.
She knows (with her brain) that she should continue her investigation, but her heart is telling her that she shouldn't do this without talking to Clark first and let him know what's going on.
LOIS: So, you're saying I wasn't being clear?

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This is a once in a lifetime opportunity that I will never get again.
Clark:To marry? To marry a rich man?
LOIS: No. And No.

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Although, it really does seem she is saying "this is my one chance to marry, if I say no, I might never get another chance". At least based on what Clark knows.
LOIS: He knows me. He should know that isn't what I want.

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I don’t know how to meld these two contradictory parts warring inside of me.”
JOHN: This really does make it sound like she has positive feelings for Lex despite the negative feelings that Clark has towards him. Even knowing what I do, that is still the only way the last line makes sense.
Her brain says this will be the only opportunity to get within the 'belly of the beast' and get close to Lex. Her heart wants to stop this investigation and be close to Clark. Those are the two part warring inside of her. Her career goals and her heart.

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If this is not a request for "make a simple solution for me to move forward", then I have never heard one.
How about "Tell me you'll still love me, even if I go ahead with this undercover sting against Lex?"

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Clark:Marry me and forget about Luthor.

Reader:I really think that is the only way for Clark to ever interpret these lines. Lois asks for a "best way forward" without telling Clark anything about what she is trying to do. She has made it sound like she wants to marry and sees Lex as her only option.
Because he's forgetting one key aspect of Lois's personality. Her willingness to forgo her personal life for her career aspirations.

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stop treating Lois as if she is super shallow Clark. She fell in love with you as Clark, not just you as Superman. She loves you. Aargh, why can't he see that.
Because his life experiences have shown him that good things don't come to him?

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Clark, you don't have to do anything. Action is not what Lois needs now. She needs a friend to listen to her concerns. Be that friend Clark.
This, sadly, is the major contention in many relationships. A woman wants to talk and be heard, and a man wants to give advice on how something should be fixed or take action to fix it.

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He is going to do something stupid.
Clark? Never! wink
BATMAN: This is why I'm the brains of the Justice League.
SUPERMAN: Hey!
WONDER WOMAN: Don't worry about it, Superman. We only let Batman think that, but we know the truth.
SUPERMAN: Thank you.
WONDER WOMAN: I'm the brains behind this outfit.
BATMAN: No, what I said was 'how do you expect any man to think clearly while you wear that outfit?'
WONDER WOMAN: That's your problem.

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Considering their actual experience, and the clothes she brought to the Lexor, it makes sense that Lois might expect what is coming.
LOIS: That he's going to tell me CK=SM? And what does sex have to do with that?

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If he didn’t speak up and tell her now, he would regret it for the rest of his life.
JOHN: No, he will be glad for not being a total lunkhead.
Well, from Clark's POV getting engaged or married is the highest way of telling someone that you love them. It isn't from Lois's POV, because they both see becoming married differently. So, to him, saying "Lois, I want to marry you" is like him saying "Lois, I love you so much, I want to give my whole self to you." But what Lois hears is "Lois, I want you to give yourself to me."

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Then tell her that Clark, tell her "I have wanted to do this for months, but I knew I should wait longer, but with things going how they are now, I fear I will never get a chance."
CLARK: Yeah. That would have been better. I must say, I'm not too eloquent at the spur of the moment.

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Then don't do it Clark. Oh why, why is he such a lunkhead?
Because he's afraid that if he doesn't speak up he'll lose Lois forever.

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Oh, this is such a trainwreck.
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Well, at least that means he does not have it here to use as a stand in ring.
Yes, that would be a bad precedent. Also, it's my understanding that men don't re-use engagement rings because if he didn't marry the first woman he gave it to, it means the ring is cursed.

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Yet, I cannot – in good conscience – let you
JOHN: [ARGH!] This is just a horrible line. Clark, you have no control over her actions.
Yes, he hasn't learned from his past mistakes, now how he?

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sad she just crushed his heart, totally.
LOIS: Hey, my heart isn't feeling so go either here.

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If you want to get married so badly, why not choose me?”
JOHN: [calls hospital for neck brace] this is just the worst thing he could have said.
Yeah. There's no coming back from that line.

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He caressed her cheek, tucking a lock of hair behind her ear.
JOHN: Isn't that the things she always things Superman does?
Yes.

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He really should point out that that was not his only reason, just the catalyst to act now.
CLARK: /his ego a puddle at his feet/ huh?

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Just tell her Clark.
CLARK: Clearly, she isn't in any mood to listen to anything I have to say in my defense.

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sad this is the worst possible way for her to tell him.
Oh, yeah. evil

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“I have no idea who you are!” Lois announced, throwing her hands into the air.
JOHN: Now that is just unfair. She knows who he is. A kind, caring individual who loves her. His name is not part of that equation.
She's talking 'names' not personalities.

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Clark:I was the one who turned down your very attractive and high pressure attempt to get us to make love.
LOIS: Yeah. And that made me feel just peachy keen.
CLARK: There's no winning here, isn't there?
BATMAN: I recommend backing away slowly with your hands in a surrender position.

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[happy] he is speaking the truth. Although he should have [been happy?]
Oh, dear. John's gone off the deep end.

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[excited that] he speaks of himself as Superman while dressed as Clark.
CLARK: But she admitted to knowing the truth. Should I still pretend we're two people?
LOIS: You should have stopped pretending long ago.

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sad he just opened up to her about what he knows, and all she can do is accuse.
He should have told her earlier.

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Well, her constantly defending him made it seem that way.
Had Lois defended Lex recently? No.

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sad this is so unfair. Especially since he did just tell her.
After she pushed him to it.

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“How can you say that you love me, when you don’t even know me?”
JOHN: This is the worst line possible.
Technically, she told Lex the same thing.
PERRY: From what I can tell, nobody knows you, honey.

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He just told her all the key facts.
When push came to shove.
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 12:52 PM
-- Continuation of response to John's FDK --
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And she crushed his heart. She claims to be doing this for him, but I think it is mainly motivated by her own selfishness.
Partly to prove something to herself, partly to save Clark. And she didn't come out of that scene in the park unscathed either. She realized how much the man she had put most of her trust into, didn't trust her at all.

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Perry:I have on multiple occasions said I do not want employees with conflicts of interest.
Yes, Perry has mentioned this before.

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He has a really, really, really good point. So good, I think Lois should just apologize for being so rude.
PERRY: /scoffs/ That will be the day.

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Perry:How do we know that? The only dates we see you go on are with Luthor.
LOIS: Not 'dating' as in 'date', 'dating' as in 'in love'.

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Perry:And then you flung yourself at a richer, more powerful man. What is he supposed to think?
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Perry:And you don't think he would take you to Vegas and marry you this afternoon if you were willing. Lois, that boy wants you in the worst way possible, of course he would do that.
Again, this is about what Clark wants, not what Lois wants.

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How often had she kissed him at work over the last month,
JOHN: Not nearly enough.
CLARK: Ditto what John said.

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People don't feel right about secret relationships, they want to let things be open in the light. If Clark was ok with secret relationships, they could have been making love all last summer. He hates secrecy, and wants to be open about his relationship with Lois.
Yeah, well, Lois's idea of love and relationships is a bit screwed up. If you remember, she was willing to date SM last summer in disguise.

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She had thought that Clark understood that she was putting her life, her wants, and her desires on hold for him,
JOHN: How, she never said such. She said that she was confused by kissing Superman. She said it was to protect her. She manipulated him into not going public by saying if they did she would be in danger. She never said anything about protecting him.
Some people who fly in this story have eidetic memories. Everyone else's memories are a bit more fuzzy.

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Well, it would really have helped if she told him what she was really doing.
True.

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But she did know that Clark was Superman.
LOIS: Clearly, that is merely a minor detail. mad Not nearly important enough to share with the woman he loves enough to propose to!

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I think that should be "he be willing to".
Fixed. Thanks.

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[so frustrated] she is really crazy.
But this story wouldn't be as much fun if she wasn't.
ARI: Open up the new ward! We've got a patient coming in!

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Actually, I have to say that this is no worse that in canon, and probably it is better than what happened in canon.
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Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 06:13 PM
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Canon Lois told canon Clark that she knew in a park. It's symbolic.
But canon Lois was not trying to hide from a psychopathic murderer.

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She's asking him to think about what she's saying as her "partner" not her "boyfriend". Another reason why dating at work isn't a good idea.
Acutally, normally asking Clark to think in these two different phases would work. If she was just dating her work partner things would not be so bad. But when she decides to faux-date her main focus of investigation, she has created too large a mess for anyone to handle.

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Her brain says this will be the only opportunity to get within the 'belly of the beast' and get close to Lex. Her heart wants to stop this investigation and be close to Clark. Those are the two part warring inside of her. Her career goals and her heart.
It makes sense when you explain it, but I still don't see it really flowing from what she actually said, and there is no way that Clark will ever get that from what she said. Not even if Cat can convince him that Lois is just under cover will that follow from what Lois said.

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How about "Tell me you'll still love me, even if I go ahead with this undercover sting against Lex?"
Well, since she has not said anything about undercover or sting, it is really hard for Clark to get that at all.
Posted By: John Lambert Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/16/13 08:11 PM
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Had Lois defended Lex recently
She defended him as a good person after he had both shot and bought her. She believed him over Brigitte Kahn and whatever sense of investigating the issue Clark had developed. When she flat out rejects his attempts to point out problems with Lex like that, what other choice does he have but to not say anything.

He had tried to trust her with details of the investigation, and she had accused him of being jealous and petty and not listened to him at all.

Although, to be fair, Lois maybe was already using Lex as part of an investigation back then, but even her attempt to get Clark to see her relationship with Lex as like his with Cat just does not work. Clark never presented his relationship with Cat as romantic, but Lois clearly was putting on romantic airs with Lex.
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/20/13 12:56 PM
[Linked Image] Now I’ve got my new computer monitor. It’s a bit scary. Almost bigger than my TV. On the downside, my Internet connection dumped all over me this weekend. I’m now online via a very round-about hookup that ends with my phone providing LnC-FDK with a lifeline. My provider is telling me a support technician will get back to me within the next two days. And if I’m lucky, some miracle will happen and the connection will fix itself before then. :rolleyes:

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and something for which he would be lucky if she ever forgave him,
I’ve heard that boinking her brains out is supposed to be a miracle cure for her getting over the slight.

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He had once thought it necessary for love to blossom between Lois and Clark, but now he wasn’t as convinced of that.
LOIS: Maybe us having kids is not the best idea after all. I wonder if that cute FBI agent is available…

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. She had been ten minutes late and she apologized right away for being so,
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I mean, I know what I should do.
Shave her legs up to her hips and get a prescription for birth control?

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I know how I feel about him and what I want to do.
Up-chuck?

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Did he want to hear how she loved Clark, but how Lex would be a much better match for her because of his social status and wealth? Certainly not.
/hands Lois a t-shirt stating: My boyfriend thinks I’m a social climbing whore and all he got me for my wedding was this t-shirt.

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Clark took Lois’s hands in his. “I have loved you since the first moment I saw you. You are intelligent and brave and beautiful and selfless and funny, a true friend and partner.”
I don’t think this is going to end well.
TEMPUS: [Linked Image] And to think, all I would have had to do was mix and mingle the Lois and Clarks of the different universes. Herb would have never figured it out.

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He had always wondered what she’d be like stunned speechless and he guessed he now knew.
Maybe it would have been less traumatic for her if he had simply dropped his britches in front of her.

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“A man cannot claim to love a woman when all he has ever done is lie to her.”
LEX: I beg to differ.

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“That’s not true,” he sputtered, getting to his feet in the need to defend his integrity. “I don’t lie to you.”
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How could he explain to her that Clark Kent was his name?
He *wasn’t* born Clark Jerome Kent from Smallville, Kansas. He was born Kal of the House of El, husband of Za of the House of Ra, crown prince of Krypton.
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 10/20/13 12:57 PM
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Okay, so she did know. The fury at him made sense; he had even anticipated it. He swallowed, trying to choose his next words carefully.
Translation: He’s trying to come up with a convincing lie.

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Now, you ask me to marry you without giving me the common courtesy of first telling me who you really are. Why should I believe you love me now?”
/hands Clark a body-length mirror he can hold up in Lois’s face/

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She thought of him, of Superman, as a liar and she had made a good case. He didn’t want to grovel. Either she wanted him or she didn’t.
So, he’s never heard about the ‘kidnap her to a lonesome island in the Pacific until she’s come around to his side of the bed’ angle?

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Clark cleared his throat, before admitting, “I didn’t tell you because we thought you might be too close to him, Lois.”
Didn’t want to spill the beans to Lex’s newest main squeeze, huh?

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“But Clark – and I am calling you this, because I really don’t have a proper name to call you –
/supplies list of choice words/

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The problem was that her facts were all correct.
So, ‘I’m sorry isn’t too far up on his idea list’? Or ‘you were right, I was wrong’?

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“There is not a way you could have possibly phrased a proposal today, where I would have accepted it,” Lois went on.
help

wave Michael
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 11/01/13 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by John Lambert:
EW: Canon Lois told canon Clark that she knew in a park. It's symbolic.
JOHN: But canon Lois was not trying to hide from a psychopathic murderer.
Sometimes the best place to hide is out in public.

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Acutally, normally asking Clark to think in these two different phases would work. If she was just dating her work partner things would not be so bad. But when she decides to faux-date her main focus of investigation, she has created too large a mess for anyone to handle.
It's another way Lois is extrapolating Clark's sense of 'super' into all aspects of his life. There's a reason this story isn't called 'Wrong Lois'.
LOIS: Because that would be factually inaccurate. Because I'm *never* wrong... I just mess up sometimes.

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It makes sense when you explain it, but I still don't see it really flowing from what she actually said, and there is no way that Clark will ever get that from what she said. Not even if Cat can convince him that Lois is just under cover will that follow from what Lois said.
As if Lois can always see the truth in what Clark's says.

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EW: Had Lois defended Lex recently
JOHN: She defended him as a good person after he had both shot and bought her. She believed him over Brigitte Kahn and whatever sense of investigating the issue Clark had developed. When she flat out rejects his attempts to point out problems with Lex like that, what other choice does he have but to not say anything.
Neither of those are recently.

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He had tried to trust her with details of the investigation, and she had accused him of being jealous and petty and not listened to him at all.
Do you mean HERE or earlier in the story? Because HERE, she already knew that Lex was bad and she didn't need to hear that. If you mean previously, it still wasn't really since Nightfall or even the beginning of the year, so not recently at all.

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Although, to be fair, Lois maybe was already using Lex as part of an investigation back then, but even her attempt to get Clark to see her relationship with Lex as like his with Cat just does not work. Clark never presented his relationship with Cat as romantic, but Lois clearly was putting on romantic airs with Lex.
LOIS: To say that there was as much romance between me and Lex as there was between Clark and Cat would be factually accurate, unless Clark lied to me about his relationship with Cat. Just because Lex thinks that there was more going on than there was on my half, is *his* problem not... well, okay, it's MY problem now. grumble more like the aftermath of his crush. Ugh.
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 11/01/13 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Michael:
Now I’ve got my new computer monitor. It’s a bit scary. Almost bigger than my TV. On the downside, my Internet connection dumped all over me this weekend. I’m now online via a very round-about hookup that ends with my phone providing LnC-FDK with a lifeline. My provider is telling me a support technician will get back to me within the next two days. And if I’m lucky, some miracle will happen and the connection will fix itself before then.
I hope everything is back up and working as it should.

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I’ve heard that boinking her brains out is supposed to be a miracle cure for her getting over the slight.
True, but usually she has to forgive him to get to the make-up sex.

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LOIS: Maybe us having kids is not the best idea after all. I wonder if that cute FBI agent is available…
He meant as opposed to her loving Superman.

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LOIS: No, that was because I knew Clark would soon be fondling my upper body area. I mean, yes, bomb. Help, Superman.
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LOIS: [Linked Image]

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Oh no, Lex has knocked her out and then knocked her up.
That would be bad. /See StopQuitDont's Double Jeopardy / WHAM: it has stuff in it even ERs don't like to read.

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Maybe he should have added some frog legs to it as toppings. I hear they offer all sorts of toppings for frozen yogurt.
LOIS: [Linked Image] Sounds quite nauseating.

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/raises hand about not wanting ice cream, or chocolate in non-liquid form, at ten o’clock in the morning either/
LOIS: It's now a proven fact that Darth Michael isn't a woman.

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Or, maybe, she’s already submitted her tell-all story about her night of sexual bliss with Superman, and how he’s tricked all of Metropolis, for tomorrow’s headline.
PERRY: [Linked Image] I've asked her to now get me some cold hard facts.

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LOIS: mad That…manipulative horse’s behind!
He was planning on telling her anyway, so he just wants to get points for that.

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/determines one needs to use *very* small words with Clark. Maybe even pictures to go with them/ At least, it explains why he’s got zippers on his boots instead of shoe laces.
Because he doesn't want to jump to the logical conclusion, just in case he's wrong?

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Go do unspeakable things to yourself?
He's a killer. She was in his car. If she insulted him, it's possible she could be at the bottom of Hob's bay by now.

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LEX: I should have recorded it and sent a signed copy to Superman.
He was planning on mentioning it on the plane, but Lois made him change his plans.

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Shave her legs up to her hips and get a prescription for birth control?
Investigate the hell out of Lex.

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I know how I feel about him and what I want to do.
ER: /suggests/ Up-chuck?
Yes, he makes her nauseous and not in the good way, and all she wants to do is stay as far away from his as possible but that would be running away and Lois Lane DOESN'T run away.

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/hands Lois a t-shirt stating: My boyfriend thinks I’m a social climbing whore and all he got me for my wedding was this t-shirt.
LANA: I have one of those, except it now read's "my EX-boyfriend...", not that I would ever wear it because it was a t-shirt and that would just be tacky.

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I don’t think this is going to end well.
CLARK: I thought you guys all wanted me to propose.

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TEMPUS: And to think, all I would have had to do was mix and mingle the Lois and Clarks of the different universes. Herb would have never figured it out.
Hmmm. Sounds like ER and Tempus don't think there's a way out for Alt-Clark and this Lois.

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Maybe it would have been less traumatic for her if he had simply dropped his britches in front of her.
OFFICER: And HERE's your ticket for indecent exposure at a public park, Superman.
CLARK: I knew I should have left the Suit at home.

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“A man cannot claim to love a woman when all he has ever done is lie to her.”
LEX: I beg to differ.
LOIS: I *meant* and expect her to believe him.
LEX: Oh.

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“That’s not true,” he sputtered, getting to his feet in the need to defend his integrity. “I don’t lie to you.”
ER: /thinks this would not be the best place to lie, Clark/
CLARK: Most of what I say to Lois is the truth!
LOIS: It's that 2% that isn't that keeps getting you in trouble.
LEX: Yes, it's much better to go with 98% lies and 2% truth instead. I've always found that ratio to work best with women I want to bed.

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He *wasn’t* born Clark Jerome Kent from Smallville, Kansas. He was born Kal of the House of El, husband of Za of the House of Ra, crown prince of Krypton.
Yes, but all that he knows of that is Kal and El and Krypton.
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 11/01/13 10:51 AM
-- Continuation of Response to Michael's FDK --
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Translation: He’s trying to come up with a convincing lie.
CLARK: Will you stop using the Luthor 3000 for your translating uses? It has some very inaccurate flaws.

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/hands Clark a body-length mirror he can hold up in Lois’s face/
LOIS: Well, duh. I should have realized that. Sorry. Let me rephrase. "Why should I marry you?"
/turns mirror around so it acts like an x-ray to Clark's clothing, i.e. removing them/
LOIS: Oh, right. Sorry, of course, I'll marry you. How about tonight? I'm free tonight.
CLARK: /gulps/ So, soon? Well, better that you die happy than with Luthor. Okay!

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So, he’s never heard about the ‘kidnap her to a lonesome island in the Pacific until she’s come around to his side of the bed’ angle?
Ah, the Stockholm proposal?

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Didn’t want to spill the beans to Lex’s newest main squeeze, huh?
CLARK: I didn't *say* that.
LOIS: But that's what you meant, isn't it?
CLARK: [Linked Image]

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/supplies list of choice words/
LOIS: Gfic.

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So, ‘I’m sorry isn’t too far up on his idea list’? Or ‘you were right, I was wrong’?
Wait. He didn't say that? eek Ooops?
CLARK: help

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She stomped over to her desk, picked up her nameplate and marched towards the elevators.
ER: Wait, what now?
Um... she just 'quit'.

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she’s not just doing this because she’s under-the-covers. She’s really mad at Perry.
No, she's doing this because she thinks it's the only way to save the DP. If Lex has been expressing interest in the DP because of her, if she separates herself from the Planet, maybe Lex will no longer be interested in it. It's an end round.

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That part sort of left ER cut off at the kneecaps.
Don't worry, Michael. [Linked Image] It'll get better.... eventually. evil
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 11/03/13 08:53 AM
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I hope everything is back up and working as it should.
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True, but usually she has to forgive him to get to the make-up sex.
Or they just have mad fighting sex instead until she forgets why she’s mad?

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quote:Oh no, Lex has knocked her out and then knocked her up.

That would be bad. /See StopQuitDont's Double Jeopardy/ WHAM: it has stuff in it even ERs don't like to read.
[Linked Image] I’ve only skimmed that one to know what’s being posted. Not really my kind of story, though.

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quote:Maybe he should have added some frog legs to it as toppings. I hear they offer all sorts of toppings for frozen yogurt.

LOIS: - Sounds quite nauseating.
Hmm…neither pregnant nor a clone. Or maybe, she’s a pregnant clone?

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LOIS: It's now a proven fact that Darth Michael isn't a woman.
[Linked Image] [Linked Image]

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PERRY: - I've asked her to now get me some cold hard facts.
CAT: Normally, it would be hot, steamy facts, but given that they’ve been collected by the Ice Queen…

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quote: LOIS: mad That…manipulative horse’s behind!

He was planning on telling her anyway, so he just wants to get points for that.
I don’t think that is helping his case.

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Because he doesn't want to jump to the logical conclusion, just in case he's wrong?
Hmm…nah, I’ll stick with him being dumber than Tempus.
TEMPUS: Exactly! Wait, what?

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Yes, he makes her nauseous and not in the good way, and all she wants to do is stay as far away from his as possible but that would be running away and Lois Lane DOESN'T run away.
So, she’s going to jump right into the danger and Lex’s bed instead?

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LANA: I have one of those, except it now read's "my EX-boyfriend...", not that I would ever wear it because it was a t-shirt and that would just be tacky.
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quote: I don’t think this is going to end well.

CLARK: I thought you guys all wanted me to propose.
[Linked Image]

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Hmmm. Sounds like ER and Tempus don't think there's a way out for Alt-Clark and this Lois.
[Linked Image] Not until his twin shows up, no.

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OFFICER: And HERE's your ticket for indecent exposure at a public park, Superman.
CLARK: I knew I should have left the Suit at home.
laugh Good thing they’re not near a playground?

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CLARK: Most of what I say to Lois is the truth!
LOIS: It's that 2% that isn't that keeps getting you in trouble.
LEX: Yes, it's much better to go with 98% lies and 2% truth instead. I've always found that ratio to work best with women I want to bed.
LEX: “I’m very rich” and “I want you in my bed”?

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quote: Translation: He’s trying to come up with a convincing lie.

CLARK: Will you stop using the Luthor 3000 for your translating uses? It has some very inaccurate flaws.
/checks owner’s manual/ No, it states right here: proven to be 100% correct in translations of pond scum and pocket lint musings.

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LOIS: Oh, right. Sorry, of course, I'll marry you. How about tonight? I'm free tonight.
CLARK: /gulps/ So, soon? Well, better that you die happy than with Luthor. Okay!
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Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 11/03/13 08:54 AM
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quote: So, he’s never heard about the ‘kidnap her to a lonesome island in the Pacific until she’s come around to his side of the bed’ angle?

Ah, the Stockholm proposal?
Very popular with the LnC crowd.

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quote: So, ‘I’m sorry isn’t too far up on his idea list’? Or ‘you were right, I was wrong’?

Wait. He didn't say that? <realizes Clark is stereotypical male> Ooops?
CLARK: <hides from green-coated household implements>
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quote: /points at her biological clock and the missing chromosome?
LOIS: /so mad her clock explodes/

PERRY: Feeling better now?
LOIS: Much. Thanks. I needed that.
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Perhaps Perry's line should read "Lois, Lex might not be the most egotistical one in your relationship."
Yes, but that would be dangerous.

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Always a good choice, but he's been done before. I was thinking maybe someone new.
The first CW Oliver Queen.

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quote: She stomped over to her desk, picked up her nameplate and marched towards the elevators.
ER: Wait, what now?

Um... she just 'quit'.
Yeah, but why take her nameplate if she’s really done with the Daily Planet. Or, rather, why take the nameplace if she’s not really done with the Daily Planet. Lex wouldn’t think twice about it either way.

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Don't worry, Michael. <pretends to feel compassion> It'll get better.... eventually. <is happy that the evilness will continue for another 70 or so parts>
wave Michael
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 12/12/13 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Michael:
EW: True, but usually she has to forgive him to get to the make-up sex.
ER: Or they just have mad fighting sex instead until she forgets why she’s mad?
CLARK: There's other kinds of sex other than mad-fighting sex? Hmmmm. Who knew?
LANA: [Linked Image]

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LOIS: - Sounds quite nauseating.
ER: Hmm…neither pregnant nor a clone. Or maybe, she’s a pregnant clone?
That would be quite the twist, wouldn't it?

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PERRY: - I've asked her to now get me some cold hard facts.
CAT: Normally, it would be hot, steamy facts, but given that they’ve been collected by the Ice Queen…
PERRY: What's this? Moist foggy facts at best. Sorry, this won't do. Try harder, Lane.

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LOIS: mad That…manipulative horse’s behind!

EW: He was planning on telling her anyway, so he just wants to get points for that.
ER: I don’t think that is helping his case.
CLARK: So, it's not the one who has the most points at the end who wins? [Linked Image]
LOIS: No, dork, it's the one who let's me have the most points by the end who wins.
LEX: Well, count me out then unless, of course, someone is willing to sell me their points.

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Because he doesn't want to jump to the logical conclusion, just in case he's wrong?
ER: Hmm…nah, I’ll stick with him being dumber than Tempus.
TEMPUS: Exactly! Wait, what?
Exactly, What? (or was that Clark / Lois you were speaking for?)

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EW: Yes, he makes her nauseous and not in the good way, and all she wants to do is stay as far away from his as possible but that would be running away and Lois Lane DOESN'T run away.
ER: So, she’s going to jump right into the danger and Lex’s bed instead?
LOIS: He has a one track mind, doesn't he?

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ER: I don’t think this is going to end well.

CLARK: I thought you guys all wanted me to propose.
ER: /admits, not quite like this/
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Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 12/14/13 01:05 PM
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That would be quite the twist, wouldn't it?
wave Michael
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 01/04/14 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Michael:
LOIS: He has a one track mind, doesn't he?
ER: Hey, it’s all there in the story! /if you read between the lines/
[Linked Image]

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ER: /checks owner’s manual/ No, it states right here: proven to be 100% correct in translations of pond scum and pocket lint musings.

CLARK: A-ha! See, I knew it wouldn't work on me. I'm a lunkhead, that's several steps up from pond scum (i.e. Ralph) and pocket lint (i.e. Wally).
ER:Actually, the archives would disagree on that.
The ARCHIVES say that Wally and Ralph are smarter than Clark.
CLARK: dance

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LOIS: Does that mean that I need to get the Luthor 4500 to translate the diseased linty layer of pond scum which is Lex?
ER: Not wanting to shell out for the bigger version?
Not sure she really wants to know what he's saying.

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CLARK: She'd have to convince me that neither of us would die first.
LOIS: We HAD sex already.
CLARK: Nope, I need proof.
LOIS: Can you give me 8-9 months?
CLARK: [Confused]
ER: Confused because thanks to Lana Clark never had to read up on human reproductive process?
He didn't catch the reference.

Although, now that I think about it, it would have to be 8-9 months and enough time for the child to show extra human abilities (if it ever did).

CLARK: Good thing I'm a patient fellow.
LOIS: wallbash
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 01/05/14 02:09 PM
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The ARCHIVES say that Wally and Ralph are smarter than Clark.
No, there’s tons of examples of Lois calling Clark pocket lint and pond scum.

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Although, now that I think about it, it would have to be 8-9 months and enough time for the child to show extra human abilities (if it ever did).

CLARK: Good thing I'm a patient fellow.
LOIS:<not happy about living 10-15 years of marriage without consummating>
Oops?

wave Michael
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 02/02/14 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Michael:
EW: The ARCHIVES say that Wally and Ralph are smarter than Clark.
ER: No, there’s tons of examples of Lois calling Clark pocket lint and pond scum.
CLARK: [Linked Image] I have no idea why that would be.
LOIS: See, I *am* the brains of this operation.
BRUCE: I've been trying to convince him of that for years.
LOIS: See, even Batman agrees with me.
BRUCE: What? shock How? Clark! And, Lois, I didn't mean...
CLARK: [Linked Image] Just let it slide, Bruce. She figured you out before she even met me, but it was Gotham City, so she didn't really care.
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: FDK - Wrong Clark (140/???) - 02/08/14 12:41 PM
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BRUCE: What? [Shock] How? Clark! And, Lois, I didn't mean...
CLARK: - Just let it slide, Bruce. She figured you out before she even met me, but it was Gotham City, so she didn't really care.
rotflol Michael
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