Lois & Clark Forums Forums General Discussion Fun with Polls Strange Visitor/Tempus Fugitive Poll

Ok, in Strange Visitor, we are told that it was near evening when Martha and Jonathan see the ship/flash of color that clues them into the landing.

No mention of a young couple talking about a baby earlier. No mention of paranoia about them showing up again.

In Tempus Fugitive, The ship somehow lands earlier, Lois and Clark go and blab about a baby to the not-so-elder Kents and the Kent's still find the baby in the early evening.


I am working on a little story that is based around those events.


Should I...

Is the direction/outcome of your story dependant on which option you choose, or not really? If it is, throw Tempus and all his attendant complications into the mix. Otherwise, ignore the temporal tampering if it makes no real difference.

James, do what makes your life easy, but your story not boring.

Does that help? Oh I'm so glad.

in TF - Clark does say that his parents had told him they had found him at night. And when we actually see the Kents with the baby, it's dark out. I remember cause I put part of that scene in a vid.

As for the rest -- heh. the kiss of forgetfullness worked in the movies, there's probably something in the series, too. LOL

gr8shadesofElvis, thanks for your input. (and you to LaraMoon).

The problem is this. I tend to be a veryyyy...details oriented person.(yeah, that sounds nice) Once Tempus Fugitive happened, technically it altered the temporal reality of the future events.

The biggest headache in all this is the ship arriving early.

Did I happen to mention the that I HATE PARADOXES!!!!!

ok, I got that out of my system.

If the ship always arrived early, then how did the Kents find the ship in the first place?

If it didn't always arrive early, why the heck do it do it this time?

The only thing I can think of is that somehow, the Kryptonian drive had a temporal component to it and H.G. Well's time machine caused a variance in the space/time ethosphere surrounding the planet. When Kal-El's ship hit the ethosphere, a cascading buildup of energy was generated in the temporal capacitors enabling the ship to arrive hours earlier than it should have.

( I really need to get a job writing techno-babble )


I think I know how I want to do this...Thanks!

James

James, I know how you feel. Glitches in continuity make me



I don't like to think I'm anal, but there must be some reason I own a mug with this on it...

Aside from the fact that they *could* be slightly worried about why the couple showed up earlier, The reason the Kent's found the capsule was because the saw a streak of blue/red (i.e. Superman) going down on the field.

Michael

I voted 'other' because there's no inconsistency.

This is time-travel for you (all 'timey-wimey', as Doctor Who fans will know ). The Kents found it because - even before it happened in Clark's timeline - older-Clark went back in time and flew off to create a flash of light so his parents would see it and think they'd seen the ship land. If he hadn't created that flash of light, then there'd have been a paradox.

So, yes, the ship always arrived early, and Clark was always the one who'd made that flash of light that attracted his parents' attention. He just didn't know until the events of TF that he did it.


Wendy

If Jonathon wasn't paranoid beforehand, I'm sure he would have been after Clark leans in to deeply kiss his memories away.

As for the time paradoxes, Wendy is right. It always was that way because it happened that way the first time.

Elisabeth
who is definitely not a details person and hates the babbling of details people about time paradoxes when she's trying to get to bed at night

I tend to adopt the Katherine Janeway attitude to time travel. Don't. Just don't. I rapidly lose the will to live thinking about it.

LabRat

Labby!

I don't have anything to add, except... Well, James, your post gave me an idea that might help with the story I'm working on right now (except, I'm jumping up and down with excitement to realize that there is a potential paradox there). So thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll have to think about this some more to see if I can make use of it.

Hmmm...

ML

James, I hope you have a first post ready for this story within the month because you have peaked my interest.

I think the Kent's saw SuperClark streaking around the sky is what the Kent's saw. That is why Clark and Lois were in such a hurry to get the baby back to the field before dark when the Kent's arrive.

Just kill Tempus off and be done with him. I hate his character and tend to skim stories that he is a lead character in. I always thought the time travel bit was a load of c..p.

My beautiful and beloved live-in beta reader is working with the first draft right now.

She's may be petite, but man, she can pack a wallup with that marking pen of her's!


AAAHHH!!! AAAHHH!!! AAAHHH!!! to my most favorite villian??? For shame!!!!!"

James

Ah, you guys crack me up.

I refer to my sig for this thread's topic.

Hmmm. This is like discussing what came first, the chicken or the egg. Only worse. (I mean, if you cracked the egg to make an omelet, how could you ever have a club sandwich with it?)

Okay, maybe this is how it happened - insert picture of a club sandwich....



It's a fun thread, that's for sure!

Ann

Call me crazy, but I always thought that it worked like this:

Tempus and Wells traveling through time somehow upset the natural order of things.

The ship arrives early as a result.

Clark flies himself as a baby in the ship at night to attract the Kents' attention.

Things are set right again.

Clark and Lois are deposited back into their own time BEFORE Wells and Tempus can take them back in time.

Thereby making it impossible for them to have ever altered the history to begin with, since now they've never actually time traveled.

(Sort of makes the whole story pointless, but at least it was great fun to watch).