Lois & Clark Forums Forums General Discussion Lois & Clark Just Say Noah Episode Discussion Thread

Smiley might just be one of the crazier villains that the show featured. Trying to flood the whole world and to kill most of the world’s population puts his evil scheme above most of the other villains from the show.

This episode is the source of one of my favorite funny moments of the entire series. Jimmy confessing his former crush on Lois never ceases to get a laugh out of me.

Lois and Clark finally put aside some of the relationship problems they’ve had over the last couple of episodes. It made for a good ending to this episode, even if they’d have more problems in the next episode.

IMHO, no discussion of this episode would be complete without a mention of the "flying is a piece of cake" scene; it is one of my favourites of the entire series. I love how open L&C are being with each other. Clark is being his true himself here -- the amalgam of the Clark which he presents to the world and the Superman whom the world sees. I love his casual use of his flight powers both to get comfortable and to illustrate his point, not to mention his sharing a bit of his history and his fears with Lois.

Joy,
Lynn

Hey, come on. The make up scene, and the intense, HOT kiss has to be the best scene in this episode. Come on. Just look at my signature!!!

Mrs. Luthor wrote a sexy vignette based on the episode, entitled Just Say No . It delves into what might have happened after Clark inadvertently dropped in on Lois while she was sleeping.

There are a lot of great lines in this episode. One I particularly like:

CLARK: Lois, I was wrong and I admit it. C'mon, you can't stay mad...
LOIS: Yes I can. You can fly, I can stay mad. It's a gift.

and, in the scene where Clark is complaining to his parents, and Martha is on Lois's side:

JONATHAN: Son, love and marriage are a partnership. Both people are equal in the partnership. Bottom line, they make their decisions together.

CLARK: So you're saying I should go crawling back on my hands and knees.

MARTHA: No, sweetheart. Fly back. It's faster.

How can you not love Martha's tough love at that moment?

And another thing... we get to see Alice in this episode! Or at least as much as we ever see her. I don't think they ever showed Alice's face on any episode.

Nope, Alice does show up in response to Perry's loney heart's ad at the end of S4 (Toy Story), but you're right in guessing that this is the first time we actually see her. Personally (and, yes, I know I'm tooting my own horn), I liked how I wrote Perry's reaction in the taxi to her red hair in "Another Lois". Let's just say, she spent all day in the hair salon and got it all cut off and dyed red. [Explaining why she has red hair here and is blonde again in Toy Story.]

I found the empty headed adoration of Smiley's young followers scary.No one thought killing billions a bad thing. And I was wondering were Lois' red phone got to.

I first misread this as "the flying piece of cake" scene, and I was like, "Wow, that sounds trippy. How do I not remember that?" You make a good point that this was a wonderfully honest offering from Clark.

The villain's "flooding the world" plan was ridiculously campy/ unbelievable, but I agree with everyone that the episode still has some great relationship moments. Then again, bringing more "realism" to the proceedings might not have been good. Even though I use the makeup scene in probably 50% of my videos (throwing themselves into each other so hard they practically collapse against the desk is just cinematically great!), I haven't watched the whole episode in years. But I still remember as a kid/ young adult that seeing that the woman murdered in the tree (I think seeing her limp leg) kind of upset/ scared me more than the villain's unrealistic mass murder plan. :rolleyes:

Alice was briefly played by Mary Frann. The emotions displayed between her and Perry as they discussed the debris of their marriage could only have been handled by such acting professionals at the top of their game.

I agree. Though the idea of actually flooding the earth may have been a fantasy storyline, the way his followers were willing to allow him to kill so many people eerily reminds me of some real life examples of cults.

Whoops! I thought I'd already posted something on "Just Say Noah" related fanfics, but I haven't! My bad.

Nan Smith has Just Say... I Love You - "What would have happened if Lois hadn't thought of getting Star to help read that page they found at Larry Smiley's institute in the episode "Just Say Noah"? Find out in this short and steamy story."

Cristina does a Plot Untwist Challenge Fic in her Just Push REW - amusing as all the Untwists are.

I have to give a shout-out to this episode for providing the screen name of one of my favorite authors, Female Hawk . Don't miss her fics.

I have to say your fanfic posts are one of my favourite parts of these threads, Io. I always look forward to them. Thanks for taking the time to include them.

LabRat :-)

Actually, I think her screen name has other origins, as we pretty much figured out from "Aussie Rules". We only think it relates to this episode.

I have to say the dialogue was good, even if the villain was way over the top.

That's true, but I can't help but think of this episode, with Larry Smiley referring to the people in his class as "Male and Female Lemur", "Male and Female Badger" and so on. The fact that Corrina's favorite footy team is the Hawks is an awesome and euphonious coincidence.

Gosh, thanks! I have read so many great L&C fanfics that I want to share the wealth. My fear is that I'm missing many good ones.

I post the links based on 1) the fics that I really liked and that I remember and 2) Archive Database keywords. Unfortunately, I've read so many fanfics now (thanks to years of great FoLC-work) that many of the fics get conflated or forgotten. Also, I have favorite authors so I tend to re-read their fics and therefore tend to remember those fics more. And many fanfics are related to an episode, but they aren't keyworded as such in the Archive (probably because you can only have 4 keywords, and some fics are so full and rich that they need more keywords.)

So... if you have an episode-related fanfic you'd like to recommend, don't be shy! Post the link.