|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
|
OP
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509 |
We know that Perry was born on 3/17/1944 (he turned 50 during Vatman), and that as of GGGoH had been in the business for 35 years.
Does he ever say how long he'd been the Editor n' Chief at the Planet?
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 635
Columnist
|
Columnist
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 635 |
I feel like he may have mentioned starting at the planet as a copy boy at some point, but i dont recall the episode. Also, I think he discusses his history at the Planet in the House of Luthor arc. Like post explosion? The copy boy comment might be in there... Possibly the black out episode or some of the episodes that focus on Perry & his family might be a good place to start.
.talk nerdy to me.
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,532 Likes: 6
Pulitzer
|
Pulitzer
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,532 Likes: 6 |
He covered the war at Lebanon in 1982, so he still wasn't Editor in Chief. From All Shook Up: PERRY: You know, I covered Beirut before the Marines showed up in '82, and it was never as bad as this. Andreia
"My wife's love is what unites Krypton and Earth in my heart. Without it, without her, I truly would be in hell."
~ Superman: Man of Tomorrow #15
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
|
OP
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509 |
Mrs. L - I'll have to check that out. It's been a while since I've checked out those episodes. UW - Thanks. That's helpful. I'm just trying to figure out if Perry would have been Editor n' Chief before Lois started as an intern, possibly in high school (If she was born in 67, so she graduated from high school probably 85? -- Really should re-read Fireworks, as I worked out the dates then). If Perry said that he was still a reporter in '82, so probably wasn't editor yet, when Lois started at the DP as an intern. But he was editor when Claude was a scumbag, right? Because he fired (relocated) Claude after that episode, right? Or is that fandon, not canon? Sometimes you guys write too well that my memory remembers your story as canon. Although, I can't for the life of me remember where it was I read that (Perry firing Claude). I vaguely remember that Cat laughed at Lois in the bathroom and Lois overheard, which is why they never got along. Probably, gossiped about Claude calling her frigid in the same story. All this work for a one throw-away line, but it's details like that, which keep me up at night wondering.
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,597
Merriwether
|
Merriwether
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,597 |
No, the Perry firing Claude concept would be from a story (actually, numerous stories, whether fleshed out or throwaway), not canon. We know nothing in canon about Claude other what Lois tells us in the Pilot. But as you know, it's a very popular part of Lois's backstory to explore in fanfic, which is probably why it seems we know so much. Same with any specific reasons why Cat and Lois don't get along (gossiping, etc.), and Claude ever calling Lois "frigid" or bragging about his conquest in the newsroom -- all ideas writers have explored in fanfic for why Lois is the way she is, but nothing that's canon. So bottom line, do whatever you want in your story. You won't contradict canon. Kathy
|
|
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 6,142 Likes: 2
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
|
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 6,142 Likes: 2 |
Virginia - I see Lois as interning with the DP in college moreso than high school, but that's just my two cents. It sounds like she was extremely busy with extra curricular activities in high school - student government, sports, and wasn't she in like a math club or something as per canon? Again, my two cents, but it makes more sense to me that she'd intern as a college student.
Battle On, Deadly Chakram
"Being with you is stronger than me alone." ~ Clark Kent
"One little spark of inspiration is at the heart of all creation." ~ Figment the Dragon
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
|
OP
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509 |
Originally posted by Deadly Chakram: Virginia - I see Lois as interning with the DP in college moreso than high school, but that's just my two cents. It sounds like she was extremely busy with extra curricular activities in high school - student government, sports, and wasn't she in like a math club or something as per canon? Again, my two cents, but it makes more sense to me that she'd intern as a college student. Thanks, DC. I always figured it would have been a summer internship, when she wasn't in school. Possibly between junior and senior year of high school to see if that really was the direction in which she wanted to go career wise. It would also explain her and Sam fighting which she refers to at her first real date with Clark.
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,662 Likes: 10
Pulitzer
|
Pulitzer
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,662 Likes: 10 |
It does make sense that she was an intern during college not high school. Also, Perry mentioned covering Beirut, so that might have been just before returning to the states and becoming the Daily Planet's Managing Editor. Just my two cents worth.
Morgana
A writer's job is to think of new plots and create characters who stay with you long after the final page has been read. If that mission is accomplished than we have done what we set out to do, which is to entertain and hopefully educate.
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
|
OP
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509 |
Thank you all for your advice and suggestions. I made it vague as when it was set, which I think works best. Should anyone have time, we need to compile this information and the one on Perry's sons and forward it over to Queen of Capes's Wiki site.
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 635
Columnist
|
Columnist
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 635 |
I don't know about in the US, but in Ontario (at least the two different school board districts I attended school in) had internships in grade 12. It was called Co-Op and was a credit course, so instead of getting paid, you earned one of your credits needed to graduate by going to a job a few days a week and were in class the rest of the week, and your boss interacted with your teachers etc.
You had to have good grades, and attendance, as well as references from teachers to get into the class though.
.talk nerdy to me.
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
|
OP
Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 9,509 |
Originally posted by MrsLuthor: I don't know about in the US, but in Ontario (at least the two different school board districts I attended school in) had internships in grade 12. It was called Co-Op and was a credit course, so instead of getting paid, you earned one of your credits needed to graduate by going to a job a few days a week and were in class the rest of the week, and your boss interacted with your teachers etc.
You had to have good grades, and attendance, as well as references from teachers to get into the class though. That sounds cool!
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,357
Top Banana
|
Top Banana
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,357 |
Originally posted by MrsLuthor: I don't know about in the US, but in Ontario (at least the two different school board districts I attended school in) had internships in grade 12. It was called Co-Op and was a credit course, so instead of getting paid, you earned one of your credits needed to graduate by going to a job a few days a week and were in class the rest of the week, and your boss interacted with your teachers etc.
You had to have good grades, and attendance, as well as references from teachers to get into the class though. I don't know of something similar but I knew some people in high school (mind you this was 13 years ago) that were able to go half- days for the last semester of school. Oftentimes they'd use that time to go to work of some kind. I could very easily see it being used to get an internship.
CLARK: No. I'm just worried I'm a jinx. JONATHAN: A jinx? CLARK: Yeah. Let's face it, ever since she's known me, Lois's been kidnapped, frozen, pushed off buildings, almost stabbed, poisoned, buried alive and who knows what else, and it's all because of me. -"Contact" (You're not her jinx, you're her blessing.)
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,549
Pulitzer
|
Pulitzer
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,549 |
At the close of "Individual Responsibility" when Perry writes up the story on Bill Church Jr. running Intergand he says "I haven't had a byline in 17 years". That would indicate he was last not edior in 1978, since that was 1995. I am not sure how that works with the Beirut line, although he says he was there "before" the marines showed up in '82, but it still sounds like "right before", not 4 years before.
John Pack Lambert
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,549
Pulitzer
|
Pulitzer
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,549 |
Originally posted by Deadly Chakram: Virginia - I see Lois as interning with the DP in college moreso than high school, but that's just my two cents. It sounds like she was extremely busy with extra curricular activities in high school - student government, sports, and wasn't she in like a math club or something as per canon? Again, my two cents, but it makes more sense to me that she'd intern as a college student. I believe she mentions both the math club and the chess club in "Pheremone My Lovely". I would say that the image of her high school time presented in that episode and the one from "It's a Small World" don;t really jive, but they probably could work in an odd way.
John Pack Lambert
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,549
Pulitzer
|
Pulitzer
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,549 |
My high school here in Michigan did have senior co-op jobs, but as far as I know none were as exciting as working at a newspaper. I think some people had secretarial type jobs working for automotive suppliers.
John Pack Lambert
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,357
Top Banana
|
Top Banana
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,357 |
Originally posted by John Lambert: My high school here in Michigan did have senior co-op jobs, but as far as I know none were as exciting as working at a newspaper. I think some people had secretarial type jobs working for automotive suppliers. I volunteered at a museum while I was in high school (sophomore through senior.). For whatever reason, it doesn't bother me that she'd be interning (probably along the lines of Jimmy in the show.)
CLARK: No. I'm just worried I'm a jinx. JONATHAN: A jinx? CLARK: Yeah. Let's face it, ever since she's known me, Lois's been kidnapped, frozen, pushed off buildings, almost stabbed, poisoned, buried alive and who knows what else, and it's all because of me. -"Contact" (You're not her jinx, you're her blessing.)
|
|
|
|