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I know this topic has been done before several times. I was going to tag this post onto the writers' topic, which I'm finding really interesting, but I figured I couldn't be the only reader with something to say...

So to mirror Yvonne's questions... Do you read fic from fandoms? Do the fics you prefer to read have similar styles and themes to the L&C ones you read? Or do prefer completely different fics? And what attracts you to those other fandoms, what have they got that we haven't?

I guess I should start...

I've dabbled with fics from several fandoms. I know this is slightly unusual, but I'm a bit of a crossover junkie, so that has often been my way in. But I've never really stayed anywhere but here and with a slightly obscure British kids TV show called the Tomorrow People (remember it? No, I thought not wink )

The reason why I like the Tomorrow People is because the show and the themes it covered really struck a cord with me personally. Even so, I'm nowhere near as involved there as I am here (and I'm not that involved here, so that's saying something) There's not a huge amount of TP fanfic, even in comparison to L&C, but there are some really good writers. And many of them like the show for the same reason I do, so I relate to what they are writing.

There are similarities with L&C, for starters the kids in the Tomorrow People have special powers... so I realised a long time ago that I was attracted to similar things in both fandoms.

Something else about the two fandoms that I like is that they are not riddled with politics and 'ships and and a different archive depending on whether you believe that the third episode of season 5 was a dream or not, and if you don't think it was a dream you can't be a real fan, don't you remember in episode S2.15 when there was the shark and the motorbike and there was that spectator in the background holding the sign about the unicorns and the FBI, that was an allusion to the kiss in episode S4.12, which meant that....

Sorry, you get my drift, there's nowhere near as much crazyness... Another attraction for me is something that lots of people in the authors' thread have talked about, L&C fic sticks to fairly tight situation and characters and there's only so much that can happen (relatively speaking). I like that, I like to know what I'm going to get. I'm quite happy to read revelation after revelation after revelation... And I've said before, L&C satisfies the secret romantic in me.

I really appreciate the archive and the ease of finding fics. Really recently, I've started to read Dr Who fics (it was inevitable, I've always loved Dr Who, and I love Wendy's writing... laugh ) But I've not really strayed beyond the archive where Wendy keeps her fics. I know, partly because I have read some Whofic before, but mostly because I just knew from the nature of the Dr Who fandom, that finding stuff I like would take up more of my life than I have time for. There's lots of people, and everyone has their own favourite Doctor...

So what about the rest of you?

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Yes, I've dabbled. Well, more than dabbled, in the case of the X Files. I'm a regular visitor to the Gossamer archives and enjoy flipping through a few stories every couple of weeks or so. I tried Starsky and Hutch once, but didn't really enjoy it, and recently, I flicked through one or two Dr Who fics and didn't much enjoy them either. I dabbled in Smallville fic for a bit, but many of those writers, frankly, seem utterly obsessed with sex and not much else (with apologies to any Smallville fic writers who aren't!).

So, to your questions, Helga. Yes, I probably seek out similar themes in any fandom I might choose to dabble in. I want good strong drama; something gutsy and challenging. Romance is nice, but not the main reason I'll choose to read a story. As a self-confessed hurt/comfort addict, that's my first choice of fic, and that's why I've stayed with the X Files - Mulder goes through hell and back in pretty much every story ever written. <g> Which leads me to my other criterion when choosing stories to read - I have to like the leading man. blush The general context of the fandom has to interest me as well, of course, so Buffy, Angel and Charmed fic, for example, will never float my boat.

Style of writing isn't important, but quality is very important. I won't read a story that's incomprehensible, riddled with basic spelling and grammar errors, or poorly articulated.

So what does the X Files have that L&C doesn't? Well, nothing much, really. There's more of it, but on the other hand, more of it isn't very good. There's more adult stuff, but often not very good adult stuff, and I really am not in the slightest interested in slash - of which there is quite a lot.

What's revealing, perhaps, is that it's usually with a sigh of relief that I come back from X Files fic to L&C. L&C is a kinder, softer world where people generally don't mistreat or abuse each other. I can usually rely on a good standard of writing here, too. Things are a bit more hit and miss out there in the big wide fanfic world. laugh

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razz I did find a few fics to read (of which I found the blurbs to be interesting), and they just weren't good. frown I also noticed there's a lot of "shipping" going on that I didn't care to read. I'm afraid I won't find good GG fic period because I find the show's dialogue so quick and witty, mixed with just the right amount of angst, it's hard to imagine anyone but the show's writers getting it "right". But that's just MHO.

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Cool topic, Helga. I've been reading Yvonne's thread and found myself agreeing with some comments there, but couldn't speak up because I'm not a writer.

I, too, read fanfiction in several fandoms; I have been doing so for years. In fact, Lois & Clark is probably the fandom I've come to the latest in terms of reading fanfic.

I am admittedly a shippy person, so most of the fanfic I read focuses on a particular couple I like in each fandom. In that way, I guess the fics I read are somewhat similar across the different fandoms. The love theme is almost always there. (Heh, what can I say, I'm a hopeless romantic. wink )

However, I do find that the other themes do vary across fandoms. The couples obviously have very different histories and the characters very different personalities, so situations that may be appropriate for some couples will most certainly not be so for others.

For example, I realized a few months ago, reading a thread in I think this very forum, that the theme of cheating, on which I've read quite a bit in other fandoms, is practically taboo in this fandom, at least in relation to Lois and Clark (Lois cheating on someone else with Clark is apparently more palatable, I guess for obvious reasons. wink ). It has been mentioned several times in the other thread, and you've brought it up as well: there are indeed a more limited number of themes normally explored in this fandom than in others. Happy endings also seem to be more of a prerequisite here than elsewhere. I think part of it is that Lois and Clark and the love between them are placed on such a high pedestal by fans, by virtue of their iconic status. I understand how writers can feel constrained by the narrower scope, but as a reader, I fully embrace it. L&C is my comfort fandom. I think that above all, Lois and Clark's relationship is such a hopeful one, and theirs is a world I'm glad to escape into and immerse myself in for a few minutes or a few hours when reading fics. I can fully bask in the angst because I know the sun will be shining just around the corner.

The community is another thing I love about this fandom. The regularly updated, excellently managed archives, the helpful forum members, the responsive writers... I've never come across a more welcoming fandom. And the treat is that the pool of amazingly talented writers just keeps growing, almost ten years after the show went off the air. That's pretty unbelievable to me, and all kinds of awesome.

I'm attracted to other fandoms because I like the characters in them, too. Some of the couples I ship are very different from Lois and Clark, some with tons more baggage, and part of me is endlessly fascinated by the kinds of stories springing from that. On the whole, however, this fandom has more things going for it than the others I read in, and I don't think I've found more pleasure in reading and rereading fics than I have here.

And just to go OT for a moment, because I saw that new comments had been added as I was typing... Sara, have you been to Black & White & Read ? I've only read maybe five fics from there, as I'm nowhere near as big a shipper of GG's Lorelai and Luke as I am of Lois and Clark, but my understanding is that quality fics generally get posted there.


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When I started off on the net, I dabbled in a few fanfic fandoms, as I was strolling around USENET. X-Files, Highlander, Xena caught my eye for a moment, and Sliders for a longer time. I found Sliders about the same time as L&C, and was fairly stuck in both. Sliders dwindled off after the third season (stoopid Kari Woowoo. Stoopid David Peckinpah), and for the longest time, I kept sights on L&C.

A few years ago, I stumbled across some Stargate SG1 fic, and I've been fairly stuck there recently. Themes are usually team-based, and some romance-based, but only with certain ships. I guess like most people, if the ship doesn't fit into my perspective, I'm not interested. If the morals don't fit mine, or what I think the characters would do, I'm not interested. Incongito mentioned cheating being acceptable in some fandoms, but since it's not acceptable to me in any fashion, I don't want to read about my favorite characters doing it, even if it's with each other.

I've dabbled in a few other fandoms recently, when something catches my eye. I've had problems getting into Doctor Who fanfic for the same reasons Sara mentioned. Harry Potter, it depends on the setting.. I like post-school stories, but once again, only with the ships that fit my ideas.

What attracts me to the other fandoms is the new ideas. After 10 years reading almost solely L&C, I'm getting burned out. I like the different interpersonal relationships (intimite or no). I like the different personalities. And I like the different ideas. It's like being stuck in the same town year after year after year, and finally moving away. There's just so much new stuff to explore!


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I haven't read outside of the L&C fandom in years. What fandoms I read in usually has something to do with the shows I watch, and a lot of the shows I watch have much darker themes--NCIS, Criminal Minds, etc. I don't have a need to read about more dead bodies outside of my weekly viewings. :p I also watch a lot of comedy reruns-Friends, Wings, Frasier, etc. but I can find them so frequently on tv that I don't feel a need to read more about them. Now that Lois & Clark has been off the air in my area for a few years (I don't know about other places?), it's not overwhelming to read a bunch of fanfic a week. And I find the characters so interesting that they keep me coming back even after I became a fan of the show...what, 13 years ago? There's also a little bit of a community thing here, too. This is the first fandom I've ever picked up a fic to read and have been able to say, "Oh, hey, Dave wrote that; I hung out with him in IRC last month!" Or whoever. I'm much likelier to hang around fandoms if I know a few people rather than just surfing the web.


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I've read a bit of JAG and One Tree Hill. I ended up liking JAG after Lois and Clark ended. I always saw Harm and Mac's as being similar to that of Lois and Clarks so I saw some sort of parallel I guess.


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Oh, absolutely. It tends to depend on whether I'm in the middle of a wallow or an obsession for a particular show and whether what I'm getting on screen scratches the itch entirely or not.

For example, I was given S1 of the XF as a gift earlier this year and that sent me off on watching...nay, devouring...everything I had on DVD. Once I reached the point where the show jumped the shark for me, what was on screen just wasn't satisfying the itch, so I went trawling through the Gossamer archive for fanfic to get my fix.

The same thing happened when I became obsessed with Stargate (Classic). There just weren't enough episodes to watch over and over again and I was still restless and wanting more. So fanfic filled that gap. I felt as though I'd go crazy if I didn't find some new adventures and then I found Sally Reeve's wonderful J/S ship stories and that solved that one. laugh

But with other shows which I really enjoy watching and are obsessed with of a moment - such as Firefly or BSG, I seem to get all I need from what's on screen and it never occurs to me to go looking for more.

And there are a couple of other shows - such as Buffy, Angel - where I've made a half-hearted attempt to find fanfic, but haven't been able to find anything of quality to appeal, so have given up.

These days, when free time is so sparse, I find that I have the appalling habit of downloading a ton of fanfic from other fandoms and then never getting around to reading them. :p

But Stargate and XF fanfic are probably the two that I trawl regularly to see if anything wonderful has appeared. I think maybe that's to do with the fact that both fandoms have a dedicated central archive, like FoLCdom does, so it's easier to find. I also have a large list of favourite Stargate authors' personal fanfic websites bookmarked and scan them every few months to see if they've posted anything new. But Heliopolis is the main stopping point.

I don't think I look for much that's different in the way of fanfic in other fandoms. I read what appeals to me, as I do here. Hurt/comfort, angst, a little bit of humour included, team banter, character relationship, SMARM, ship. With SG1 I enjoy team fic, too, and Daniel/Jack friendship fic (but bow out if it becomes slash, which doesn't interest me).

I have a big thing - always have done - for characters showing that they care about one another in difficult situations. One character being in trouble and having to be rescued or being hurt and having to be comforted. And I get a lot of that at both Heliopolis and Gossamer. goofy

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Oh, yes indeedy. Well, since I write for different fandoms, I suppose it goes without saying that I read in different fandoms as well. However, I read in more fandoms than I write for - more than I could possibly list or even remember, in fact - and I try now not to focus so exclusively on one fandom that I wind up getting sick of it. (I learned this lesson the hard way with Harry Potter. I was so sick of HP that I didn't even much enjoy the last book and still can't work up any interest or enthusiasm for the end of the series - which is kind of sad, given how much I loved it at one point.) I read somewhere that the average time people remain intensely interested in a fandom is about two years, and then they tend to drift away in search of other things. That's been about right for me, though I've noted that a number of people responding to these what do you write/read threads have sustained interest in L&C for much longer than that.

Anyway, I'm off-track. (I tend to ramble on in the morning while I drink my coffee...feel free to just ignore me.) The first fandom I ever read in was, I'm pretty sure, X-Files. That was where I had that, "People actually do this?" moment. I never wrote any XF fic, but I did read quite a bit back when the show was still airing, Mulder was still on it, etc. The thing about XF is that I never completely understood the canon (I'm not convinced Chris Carter did either, actually) so really plotty stories tended to lose me. I'd see "black-oil" or something else that made no sense to me and just go running in the other direction. But I liked the relationship stories, and to this day, those are the stories I enjoy best in most fandoms.

Pretty much any book/tv show/movie I enjoy I try to take a peek and see if there is a body of fan fiction. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised (i.e., sucked in...) as I was with the L&C fandom, and sometimes I'm disappointed. My husband and I loved the TV show "Ed", which only ran for a few seasons. I really wanted to find some smart, funny "Ed" stories out there but was mostly unimpressed with the few I was able to find. I don't watch much TV at all, actually, but I do like "House M.D.", and there are some excellent "House" stories out there and will certainly be more, since the fan base for that show seems to be growing.

I have two "comfort fandoms" - places where I go when I want to read quality stories that make me feel good - and those are L&C and Jane Austen, which is 99% P&P fic. I realized reading some of the comments in the writers' thread that despite the obvious differences in source material, there are some real similarities between the two fandoms, and that these similarities are probably why I'm attracted to both of them. You think L&C is limited? Try a whole fandom devoted to a single novel. This is not to say that there's no variety in the stories there, but still, there's something relaxing about knowing that whatever happens in the story, E&D are going to wind up together, darn it, because that's just the way it's meant to be. (There are, of course, exceptions, just as there are exceptions with L&C here, but it's something you can mostly count on.) The limited settings mean that authors don't have to spend a lot of time describing every tree, shrub, and stone at Pemberley - or every battered desk in the Daily Planet - and can just get on with the shippy stuff, which, I'll be honest, is why I'm there. I've always been a "re-reader" - books I enjoy I'm really happy to enjoy again and again - and I don't mind having the same basic story told to me in different ways. There's something soothing about it, in fact.

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And just to go OT for a moment, because I saw that new comments had been added as I was typing... Sara, have you been to Black & White & Read? I've only read maybe five fics from there, as I'm nowhere near as big a shipper of GG's Lorelai and Luke as I am of Lois and Clark, but my understanding is that quality fics generally get posted there.
Awesome! Thanks, Chris! smile1 I haven't had a chance to trawl around yet, but it looks like just the sort of place I'd wanted to find. Even better that you say the quality is generally high. clap

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Since Yvonne said it first, I can hide behind her, right? *g*
I have this faint memory that you're as tall as me, so perhaps not. wink

And Jane Austen fanfic??? I'm astonished. Is it as good as the real thing?

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I'm like that too. It always got commented on when I was younger (I was that kid always with her head stuck in a book), I would re-read books again and again and again. I use it now as my criteria for buying books, if I'm going to want to read it again I buy a copy, if not I get my books from the library or charity shops (like libraries but with added feel-good factor).

I've never thought re-reading books was odd behaviour, but maybe it is. And I'm beginning to wonder if it's a common habit amoungst folcs. It might even go some way to explain why we like, sorry no, love, the small universe we inhabit.

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Count me as one of those pale children who shut themselves in the house on a sunny summer afternoon to read. I'm a compulsive reader. I don't think I can go more than five minutes without a fix, be that the back of a cereal box or whatever's handy. I love my Palm Pilot because now I have an entire library in my pocket (including all of Jane Austen's works).

I haven't read XF fanfic in six years or more. A couple of years ago I found some fanfic for Remington Steele but it was poor quality and there was no organized way to find it.

I re-read a lot of my books. Like Caroline said, there's something comforting about it. Plus, I can just pick up the book, let it fall open and be instantly immersed.

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I'm a compulsive reader. I don't think I can go more than five minutes without a fix, be that the back of a cereal box or whatever's handy.
LOL! I thought I was the only one who did that. goofy I read the cereal box at breakfast. I read the shampoo bottle while I'm using the bathroom. I read anything and everything.

But, in answer to the question at hand, no, I don't read at any other fandom.

I would be interested in knowing the url of the Jane Austin site, though. smile


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And Jane Austen fanfic??? I'm astonished. Is it as good as the real thing?
Well, naturally not wink - though that doesn't keep it from being fun, IMO, especially since Miss Austen's body of work is so limited. I started in the fandom just interested in reading the sequels - the 'what happened next' stories - but gradually came to accept the 'what if's' and even some of the modern retellings, though I'm pretty selective about those.

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Well, there's not just one, unfortunately; it's not as centralized as L&C even though there are probably a similar number of fics/authors. So here are a few:

Firthness is an invitation-only archive with fics of all ratings, though I think you need a password for R & up.

The Derbyshire Writers Guild hosts fics up to PG-13, with completed fics archived and WIP's updated at the message board.

The Hyacinth Gardens originated as a place for authors to post R & NC17 fics but hosts fics of lower ratings, too.

Austen Interlude is a nice little private archive. I'm not crazy about everything there, but I do enjoy Lucy's sequels, and Abigail writes an engaging Regency romance.

If you decide to give them a look, my only caution would be to beware WiP's - especially at Firthness - as some of them update at an absolutely glacial pace.

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A couple of years ago I found some fanfic for Remington Steele but it was poor quality and there was no organized way to find it.
Agreed. I tried this too and gave up in frustration. I don't remember much about the stories now except that I encountered some of the most poorly-written smut I've ever read.

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I've never thought re-reading books was odd behaviour, but maybe it is. And I'm beginning to wonder if it's a common habit amoungst folcs. It might even go some way to explain why we like, sorry no, love, the small universe we inhabit.
I don't know if I'd call it odd behavior, but I do think it's probably common among people who gravitate to fan fiction. And to write fan fic, you just about have to be willing to re-read (or re-watch, in the case of a TV fandom) until you practically have the canon memorized, or at least until you're hearing those voices in your head. Or I do, anyway. There's just no other way for me to make the dialogue sound realistic or to avoid the kinds of canon mistakes that make faithful readers crazy. And yes, I like the feeling that I'm inhabiting a world I enjoy and know well smile

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I've never thought re-reading books was odd behaviour, but maybe it is. And I'm beginning to wonder if it's a common habit amoungst folcs. It might even go some way to explain why we like, sorry no, love, the small universe we inhabit.
Oh, count me in! I re-read books all the time. I also
re-watch movies all the time. Dad thinks I'm absolutely nuts. Anyway, there's also a ton of fanfics on the archive that I'll re-read over and over, especially a nice long epic or a series. If I don't read *something* before I go to bed each night, I go stir crazy.

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I've been reading fanfic for about 7 years now, ever since I discovered Fanfiction.net during my freshman year of high school. I headed straight for the Lord of the Rings section, which had only about 200 fics at the time (and was books-only, as the movies were only at the very beginning stages of production, and years away from release). As time went on and I read more books, I got into Mercedes Lackey, Tamora Pierce, Young Wizards . . . Most of the fandoms I've gotten into have been book fandoms, which have a different feel than TV show fandoms. The first TV show I've read fanfic in was Smallville--I watched the show thanks to a college roommate, and immediately searched out the fanfic on ff.n for it. I also love Dr. Quinn, but haven't run into much high-quality fic there. L&C is actually the most *recent* fandom I've gotten into. After re-reading the Young Wizards books recently, though, I've been reading much more YW fanfic again (and finding awesome YW icons for LJ <g>).

In some ways I read the same genre(s) across fandoms. Romance, for one--L&C isn't the only couple I love to read about. But each one is different, with their own history and characters' personalities. Many of my favorite ships to read about are just teenagers (probably because they're YA books, lol), but L&C and Rosethorn/Crane (from Tamora Pierce's CoM series) are very much adults. I do tend to like the ones where the girl has to be worn down (Lois, for one). My favorite fics are the ones which blend strong A and B plots, and those can be found in most any fandom I frequent: L&C and SV have reporters, CoM has mages who invariably stumble upon a mystery or crime problem that they have to solve, YW has wizards who have to slow entropy by fighting the Lone Power in some way . . . I'm noticing a theme of "fighting for good" here, lol. So yeah, romance and drama in almost all fandoms. Hurt/comfort somewhat, but that depends on which character it is.

Apology accepted, Y. laugh (I've written two SV fanfics that I can live with, and neither one has anything remotely to do with sex.) There *are* good SV fanfics out there (I have a huge collection saved onto my hard drive for offline reading), and if you're interested, I can recommend some for various ships.

Why do I go to these other fandoms for fic? Well, as much as I love L&C (hey, happy endings nearly *all* the time, which is what I like, and heaps of variations on the same great theme), sometimes I want to read about different characters, ones with different histories and different possibilities. Other fandoms, such as SV and YW, don't have the beginnings of certain ships (the ones I go for) mapped out so well--it adds something . . . refreshingly different. smile

And last of all, having many fandoms for fic means that you're *always* discovering a new and great fic. laugh


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*perks up* There's Young Wizards fic?

Of course there is, there's fanfic for everything!

I might be interested in hearing more about that. After I finish my backlog of ST fic, SG-1 fic, HP fic . . .

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Yes: Harry Potter and occasionally Tekken (though the majority of fic there is, to say the least, mediocre). I've also read Doranwen's Smallville fics (I don't regularly watch Smallville, but I follow the recaps and know what's going on).

Count me amongst the re-re-re-re-re-readers! I don't know why it seems so peculiar to some people that somebody would want to read again a book they've enjoyed in the past...

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In a word: Yep.

In a long, rambling post: Yep, I read in other fandoms. Most of the time it's an on-again, off-again relationship. Not so much this year, as I've been pretty busy with uni and work, but generally I like to read in at least two or three at a time and then switch them up.

The only fandom I've been fairly constant in is this one, if that counts for anything, and okay, only for two years, but that's four times as long as normal! <g> I don't think it's a matter of what those fandoms have that this one doesn't, as I've always been a bit of an eclectic reader. It's what does this fandom has that's kept me here that others haven't. The thing I really love about this fandom is, like Jen mentioned, the community. I love reading a story by someone I know. More than that, I love being able to discuss a story with the author - being comfortable enough to leave more than one or two lines saying I liked the story or didn't. A lot of the time you don't hear back from authors and it's off putting.

Now, themes... I find that I usually go for different themes in different fandoms. I'll read pretty much anything (baring OT3 wink ), but for some reason I find that certain themes work better for me in some fandoms than in others.

For LnC I love a good romance. Angst always goes down well, but generally I enjoy the stories that focus on the B plot. In TXF it's case files that really do it for me. It's always nice when my 'ship is acknowledged, but I don't really want to read about it. I still like the guy getting the girl, but it's not as important as being freaked out by the FOTW/serial killer/random scary dude. In another fandom, aptly dubbed 'the gay mountie fandom' (and no, don't ask) what I enjoy are the short, reflective introspections. And in my last fandom-of-the-moment, Doctor Who (yes, I've succumbed), it's the tragic stories that really, really do it for me. I like the happy stories, I like the waffy stories, I like the angsty stories, but I *love* the tragic stories. Nothing does it for me in that fandom like an unhappy ending. wink

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I dabble in other fanfic -- mostly Stargate, and I used to follow Farscape. Every once in a while I'll check to see if there's new fic for Scarecrow & Mrs. King. I've also read a few Xena fics, and once a ST:V fic. I've read some of Wendy's Whofics, but haven't branched out to the fandom in general. In book fandom, I've read a few things set in Lois McMaster Bujold's Barrayar universe. Probably a few others I can't remember at the moment, too. But most of those, as you may have guessed, I just look at for a little while and then lose interest in for weeks, months, years at a time. The only exception was about 15 years ago, when I was addicted to Blake's 7 fanzines. smile But I haven't looked at those in ages. L&C is the only fandom I'll check on a regular basis -- even if I don't usually have time to read anything, I want to know what's there.

As for re-reading -- well, of course! For one thing, I tend to read a little too quickly, first time through, and there are some details I only notice on the second or third time through. I don't even count a LMB novel as read until I've gone through it at *least* three times. Plus, if I enjoyed it the first time, I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy it again.

Sometimes I want to revisit a particular story, and sometimes I just have a craving for a certain emotion. I *might* be able to find something new that suits my fancy, but going back to favorites is a sure bet. Though I'll admit that most of the time, I skip the first third or so of the story and then re-read the good parts laugh I know the problem set-up, after all; what I want to read about (experience) is the resolution.

Some of the fanfic on my hard drive, I've converted to Word files and put book-marks into. If I want to re-read the elevator scene in Home II, for instance, I open up the file, and then go to that book mark, and there I am smile Saves scrolling wink

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Well, I came to the Writing thread late, so I'll poke my head in here late too <g>.

I read fanfic for everything. If the show/movie/etc interests me and I have some remote idea who the characters are, assuming the fanfic is well-written I'll probably give it a shot. I've read fanfic for shows I've never seen <g>. I'm sure most of the references go right over my head, but if it's well written I generally enjoy it (although a well-versed fan might enjoy it more).

Usually I'm drawn to these fandoms because I've fallen in love with the show/movie/etc. I can't not read about them. Some character or concept or relationship just fascinates me. If I feel like I know the source material well enough I might try to write my own, but for shows where I haven't seen all the episodes I'm generally content just to read.

And on occasion I'll follow a good writer from fandom to fandom if I particularly like his/her work, even if I'm not at all familiar with the new fandom. Years ago I followed a FoLC writer into Star Trek TNG and became a fan of that too <g>.

Anyway, most commonly I read L&C, but I read Star Wars, Gargoyles, and Beauty and the Beast (the TV show) fairly often. Star Wars has a lot of fanfic but the average quality is relatively low. Gargoyles has relatively little fanfic and the average quality is still relatively low; there are a few amazing authors there, but you have to sort through a lot of dross to find them. Beauty and the Beast has a lot of fanfic, but because the fandom predates the Internet a large portion of it is only available in printzines. And very few fandoms have central archives the way that we do (and none of those I've come across have GEs!), so it's harder to find fanfic there than it is in FoLCdom.

In the past I've dabbled in Star Trek TNG, X-Files, Smallville, the Matrix... I'm sure there must be some I'm forgetting.

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You know this has been a fascinating thread and it's made me realise something I hadn't before.

Although I often search out fanfic for favourite TV shows as a matter of course, I very rarely search out fanfic for movies I've adored (I recall once taking a look for The Mummy fanfic, but not finding anything of quality to suit me, but that's about it, FAIR) and it has never, ever occurred to me to go looking for fanfic on novels I've read.

I've no idea why this should be. I've been mulling it over for a spell, but not getting any answers. laugh

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I usually don't either, but did look to see whether there was fanfic based on Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West, my latest obsession. Thing is, though, that I know nobody will be able to even get close to Gregory Maguire's style and ability to evoke atmosphere, or at least I'd have to wade through a whole lot of garbage in order to find something of good quality, so I gave up on that idea pretty quickly.

To me, when it comes to novels, it's not just about what the writer's saying, but how he or she is saying it. Prose, dialogue, descriptions, attention to detail and plot: it all comes together to form a whole. And that's a lot tougher to emulate than a TV show or movie, I think.


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I'm arriving late to this thread, I hope its no problem, but I couldn't help it blush . I too have been an avid reader in other fandoms. I think X Files has been the largest pool I've jumped in terms of sheer size and variety. It was an great experience (I got into it at its height just after the movie came out) and I still have one fic there that just blows me away every time I re-read it (even though it has been a highly contentious fic in the fandom, but that's another topic), but otherwise I'm pretty much done with it and have been for a while. I think my experience with X-Files was so positive because of my personal taste in really dark themes. The series lends itself to that.

Soon after my foray into X Files I tried Star Wars , having been a long time fan. Still, I'd have to agree with someone who mentioned that the overall quality of the fanfic just isn't as high as here. This is my newest fandom (athough I was addicted to the series, it just never ocurred to me to look for fics)--I've been pouring through everything under the sun in terms of fanfic and have found the quality of most of what I've encountered pretty high in terms of creativity and just darn good writing. There might not be the sheer volume there is of material as there is in other fandoms, but what there is more often than not is top notch in my experience. That's way better than wading through tons of junk to get to one gem.
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For some reason I never even though of looking for fanfic outside of lois & clark. Now that I know they are out there I might be reading more.

Can anyone clue me in on a good writer for Gilmore Girls or Smallville fanfic.


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I'm brand new on this site, so I guess this will function as something of an introduction, too. wink

I've been writing for fun since elementary school -- I'll be 31 in a few days -- and writing fanfic since Thundercats and He-man! *LOL* My tastes have somewhat improved, or at least grown more adult, since then.

"Recent" fandoms that I've written in include Disney's Gargoyles, X-files, one rather in-jokey Star Trek fic that keeps cropping up in various places, Buffyverse, Misty Lackey's Valdemar (for an authorized fanzine -- which promptly folded before printing my stories), CBS' Beauty and the Beast -- the 80's series -- and probably some that I'm forgetting and some that I'm deliberately not owning up to!

(Also quite a bit of original fic.)

And I read pretty much everything ... Lois and Clark was a "new find" because I missed the series when it was originally airing, and I've been amazed by the quality of the fic in the archives. There are some very good writers in this fandom ... I've been spending waaay to much time with my nose to the monitor over the last few weeks.

(editing this now that my day's done at work, since nobody's posted after me!)

Fanfiction I read currently include Buffy, Hercules, Harry Potter, and a few others. It would not be possible to list all the fandoms I've gotten briefly wrapped up in, in the past. I've been known to get interested in a TV show because a favorite fanwriter of mine started writing in that universe.

*shrug* I figure there's too much good stuff out there to restrict myself to one universe. FINDING the "good stuff" can be somewhat hard ... I am consistently impressed by the quality and quantity of fanfic available for Lois and Clark. Finding "good stuff" for this fandom's a whole heck of a lot easier than it is for, say, the Buffyverse!

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I do read other fanfic, mainly Harry Potter, Gilmore Girls, and Austen P&P. (Thank you for those links, Caroline!) FoLC is my favorite fandom, generally because I like the romance theme, and here you get a lot of it. Also I like this fandom just for the community and the quality, which I talked about here .

Lately I have also been reading Superman Returns fics at fanfiction.net but the really good stories are few and far between there. In fact, whenever I read a good one there I have an overwhelming urge to email the author to ask if the like LnC as well and if so send them over here!


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Perhaps I should start a new thread but to me L&C fanfic world seems uncommonly organized with the awards and everything I wonder why exactly is that? or is that a faulty impression?

Now I'm not that familiar with other fanfic. I think I read some Star trek or Archive X things by misstake.
But I always thought fanfic was junk until I started reading this stuff.
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Yes, I am reading other fanfiction as well.

My main interest for a long time has been JAG, whose fandom I've been following rather closely in the past. I liked the show for their two very complex people, also interacting with an interesting group of supporting characters. More or less the same can be said for my interest in Stargate (classic SG-1) but that may also have been colored by my attraction to the former lead character wink Both of those fandoms got some good writers and archives/writing groups which are generally a pleasure to visit.

Smallville is a show I've been watching in the past, so naturally fanfiction was a thought as well. I did (and seldomly still do) read some stories but like Yvonne already explained, the results do not satisfy me. SV is a show with teen characters for a teen audience and that weighs heavily on the quality - not in a good way. Altough the target audience is similar for The OC, its fandom (or what I've seen so far) is mature enough for enjoyable results. Though OC fanfiction is heavily colored in erotica, so I only get to read when the mood strikes me because that genre's not my motivation behind reading.

House MD is my current obsession, as I just noticed this show on national TV a few months ago. The main character is a real pain in the *** and on every other show he'd be hated by me but he fascinates me through his circumstances and history.

In the past I've visited plenty of different fandoms but I only stick with LnC while taking a look every now and then into those mentioned alternatives.

Thanks by the way to Chris for this Gilmore Girls archive link, I've always wanted to read some of those stories but I only ever knew ff.net (and to find one good story there, you have to eliminate 15 mediocre and 20 awful ones first)

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Absolutely, I do. Though nowadays I prefer discussion to fic, usually, because I've become very picky.

I love Firefly fic. Ususally non-romance, though I do read Zoe/Wash and the occasional Kaylee/Simon fic. I like Mal/Inara, too, but don't read much fic on them. Excepting the Zoe/Was shorties, I think I like my romance mixed with a general fic for that fandom. I like gen stories and stories about Simon and River (that's my absolute favorite relationship on the show) - I just wish some people'd mark their incest stories more clearly so I could avoid them. I also tend to like one-characer-based fics, dealing with their perceptions of the world around them.

I read Star Wars fics. I read prequel AUs where Anakin doesn't fall (Thwarted Fate - fanstastic) and time-travel fics where the OT and PT meet and Anakin doesn't fall. And RUs for the original trilogy (that don't reference New Jedi Order because I despised it haven't bought a new SW book since the first one came out - I strongly dislike the new books). I like ones set where right after ROTJ where Han's trying to figure out the details of them being siblings and finds out Vader is their father, or Leia wants to know how Luke found out, etc.

I don't read a lot of fic, though.

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The Mummy was the first fandom I was heavily into. I discovered fanfiction for it about seven years ago and read a lot of it before beginning to write my own. The main reason I like The Mummy is very similar to the main reason I like Lois and Clark, the characters are wonderful. Rick and Evelyn have such amazing chemistry, as do Lois and Clark. I have to admit it is mostly the fluffy romances I usually go for in both fandoms. As for what The Mummy has that Lois and Clark doesn't? The only thing that comes to mind is Brendan Fraser... but Dean makes a very, very good substitute.

I've attempted to get into other fandoms but never quite caught on.

Moulin Rouge is my favorite movie other than The Mummy, and I've read a few fics, but I just couldn't get into it. Maybe the movie just seemed to finalize everything too much?

I've also attempted Silent Hill, because the psychological aspect to it is absolutely amazing, but fanfictions just don't do the hauntingly beautiful art (and yes, these video games are ART) justice the way that playing the games or watching the movie does.

All in all I really think that the biggest factor for me is the magnetism of the characters, and Lois and Clark is LOADED with it.


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Well, I am completely new to LC fanfic (I've been reading for a few months but just ventured over here to the message boards yesterday), but I've been reading/writing fanfic for 7 or 8 years. For about five years I stuck solely to Harry Potter. But for the last few years I've been branching out. I've read and dabble a little in writing Star Trek (Voyager and Next Gen), Smallville, Buffy, X-Men, Lord of the Rings (mostly book based, not movie based), NCIS, and Tamora Pierce. There are probably a few more, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

The biggest fandom I follow now is Star Wars (I have a four part epic in the works), and I've been reading and writing for a little over two years on theforce.net.

I seem to have this trend though, I find an archive (fanfic.theforce.net and lcfanfic.com) and read for a few months and then I realize (yes I somehow missed it before) that there are message boards attached where there is even *more* cool stuff to read!

So here I am. I'm not a newbie to fanfic in general, but I'm new to Lois and Clark fanfic and to these message boards. So, hi all!


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Glad to have you smile Hope you'll have a great time here -- any questions, just ask! We don't usually bite.

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yeah I have always been into other fandoms. Among them are my favorites, of course Lois & Clark, Stargate crossovers(http://www.tthfanfic.com/), Star Wars, Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5.

Highlander(http://www.seventh-dimension.org/),

Spacebattles.com(crossovers usually with B5 theme)http://forum.spacebattles.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18,

www.fanfiction.net for Smallville, Superman Returns, and any that strikes my interest.

Lastly, Journeyverse(http://www.grandt.com/Journey/stories/) website is defintely interesting because an author was displeased how the writers treated Xander in Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv show so he wrote a big adventure basing on Xander. As a result of that, other authors followed in his steps and established XanderZone which contains many crossovers,etc.(http://www.grandt.com/XanderZone/stories/).

It's very easy to get drawed in their worlds and see things from the authors perspective which is fun and why I love fandom! wink

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Titanic fanfic was the first I ever read. I'd never even heard of fan fiction until then. That was 7 years ago. A few months later I discovered L&C fanfic. I've been addicted ever since. I've also read fanfics on X-files, Buffy, Roswell, and Smallville, although it's been extrememly hard and frustrating to find good quality writing. I guess I've gotten spoiled with the excellence in L&C fanfics. It's hard to top that, unfortunately.


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I've read (and written) fanfic for Buffy, Harry Potter, and now L&C. I also dabbled a bit in Lord of the Rings, but only read a little bit of the "LotR fanfic academy" by someone whose name I have completely forgotten.


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Originally posted by DSDragon:
I've read (and written) fanfic for Buffy, Harry Potter, and now L&C. I also dabbled a bit in Lord of the Rings, but only read a little bit of the "LotR fanfic academy" by someone whose name I have completely forgotten.
Unfortunately Fanfiction.Net pulled all of the "fanfic academy" stuff (there were at least fifteen or twenty of them) because ONE person complained that they contravened ff.net rules. No appeal, no discussion, they just deleted them.


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Re DSDragon and Marcus's posts, if you mean The Official Fanfiction University of Middle-earth, by Camilla Sandman, it's still found on ff.net here .

However, some of the versions based on it did get yanked after someone went on a reporting spree. A lot are still up, though: Cam estimates something like twenty were taken down, but at least 40 stayed up, and there's now at least 60 of them.

I know this, not because I read LOTR fic, but because Cam is one of my friends in another fandom - small world! I know that OFUM is one of her most-loved fics in any fandom, and as she's one of the most talented writers I've come across in any fandom I'd recommend OFUM if you're a LOTR fan.


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Yeah, I did mean The Official Fanfiction University of Middle-Earth. Just couldn't remember the title.

I also had a couple of guest appearances in The Official Buffy and Angel Fanfiction University (OBAFU). I named the official school color. :p


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Yeah, I did mean The Official Fanfiction University of Middle-Earth. Just couldn't remember the title.

I also had a couple of guest appearances in The Official Buffy and Angel Fanfiction University (OBAFU). I named the official school color. :p
OBAFU was the main one I was following - didn't realise that some of the others still existed. Apologies to all for the mistake.


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Yeah, they still exist--I used to chat with HonorH all the time--they've just gone "underground," off of ff.net.

Generally, if you can find the site for The Official Fanfiction University of Middle-Earth, you can find them all, because the author of the particular "author fic" requires that anyone wanting to write about a fanfic U for another fandom HAS to ask her/his permission, and she/he has a list of all the fanfic Universities, plus links to the stories.

Or at least that's the way it was when I was still reading OBAFU. I even created the main OBAFU website for HonorH after the fic was kicked off of ff.net.


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Generally, if you can find the site for The Official Fanfiction University of Middle-Earth, you can find them all, because the author of the particular "author fic" requires that anyone wanting to write about a fanfic U for another fandom HAS to ask her/his permission, and she/he has a list of all the fanfic Universities, plus links to the stories.
As I said yesterday, the author of The Official Fanfiction University of Middle-Earth is Camilla Sandman. And she's just confirmed that this is indeed her arrangement, mainly to prevent more than one spin-off in any fandom. Would be a bit confusing otherwise.

You can find the OFUM website, with links to OFUM itself and all the spin-off Fanfiction Universities, here . None for Lois and Clark, I see...


ETA: Darcy, I see that the link to the Buffy and Angel University is to ff.net, and that's one of the OFUs that have been taken down. You might want to email Cam with the URL of your Buffy/Angel site.


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ETA: Darcy, I see that the link to the Buffy and Angel University is to ff.net, and that's one of the OFUs that have been taken down. You might want to email Cam with the URL of your Buffy/Angel site.
No can do. I stopped updating the site a few years ago, shortly before HonorH told me that she was taking a break from OBAFU. The site doesn't exist anymore, as far as I know. And I've lost the backup files since I changed computers between then and now.


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Ah, okay - I just got the impression from your earlier posts that it was still going. smile


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I have been a fanfiction addict since about 2001. Before this fandom I mostly stuck to various anime series. However, I have dabbled recently in Firefly and The Pretender. I'm slowly being won over by the live action fandoms.*sigh* So many fandoms, so much fanfiction, so little time. wink


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