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So, I'm struggling with a story here. There is going to be a scene in it that's going to be terribly difficult for me to write, so maybe I'll skip it altogether. Anyway, if I include it, I'm going to have a little Mexican girl say "Help, Superman!" in Spanish. What would she say?

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I've moved your post into here, Ann, because you're seeking help for a fanfic. So it's on topic for this folder.

Anyway, you're more likely to get it seen in here than in Off Topic, which is generally less visited by board members than this folder.

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It's been a long time since 9th grade Spanish but IIRC "ayuda" means help.

If you need more translations there are some really good sites. Try BabelFish.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

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Thanks, Sue! Actually, I found that word myself, but it's really good to hear that you, too, think that "ayuda" is the word to use. Now, hmm, I wonder. Is there a Spanish way of saying "Superman"?

Also, since the little girl is crying for help, I'm sure I ought to put an upside-down exclamation mark before those words, "Ayuda, Superman!" But I'm using a Swedish keyboard when writing this, a keyboard with keys for the Swedish letters å, ä and ö, but there sure as heck is no key for an upside-down exclamation mark! Those of you who use American (or British) keyboards, do you have a key with such an exclamation mark? If not, how do you put such a very Spanish punctuation mark anywhere in you texts?

Oh, and thanks to LabRat, too, for moving my post to its proper folder. smile

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Is there a Spanish way of saying "Superman"?
Since it's his "name", I think she would just call him Superman. But maybe there's someone here who's seen LnC dubbed in Spanish and can tell us what they call him. I'm pretty sure it's "Superman."

As for the inverted exclamation point, if you're using MS Word, press Alt+Ctrl+!


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Thanks, C_A! I'll definitely try that Alt+Ctrl+! trick. It might work!

Oh, eh, I was just thinking... no, she wouldn't call him "Superhombre", would she? goofy

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Ayuda does mean "help", but when calling for help, she'd probably be more likely to use the word "socorro". An upside down accent mark can also be made with Alt 173 (on the numeric keypad). Finally, I've heard Superman called "El Hombre de Acero" (The Man of Steel) in Spanish, although you wouldn't use the "El" when addressing him directly:

"¡Socorro, Hombre de Acero!"


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Just a note of caution: sure, that upside-down exclamation mark is correct, and you can get it to display on the boards, but since the Archive works in plain-text only you'll have to remove it from your story before submission (or your GE will remove it), because on the Archive it'll turn into gibberish.


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Thanks, Vicki! That was really very helpful! smile

Also, Wendy, I thank you for pointing out the fact that I can't upload a story to the Archive if it contains upside-down exclamation marks. Actually, the version I'm writing right now is nfic, and as to whether I'll ever be able to turn it into gfic, well, we'll see. So I guess I'm saying that my story may never end up on the Archive.

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Actually, I've always heard "ayudame", "ayuda" being the imperative form of the verb, "me" being the reflexive part that indicates who's speaking. I can't say I've ever heard "socorro", though it does also mean help. I'd consider "ayudame" more colloquial, but thats because I live so close to the Mexican border and hear Mexican Spanish a lot. wink

Also, in the episode Ultra Woman, one of the cries for help was "¡Ayudame <something indistinct, which was probably her name>, ayudame!"

That it was in the episode that way, of course, doesn't mean it's *the* correct way.

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Thanks, Sara! It's amazing how much good advice I'm getting here! laugh

Well, I think of the little girl as a Mexican immigrant living in California, so I would certainly like her to speak a Mexican kind of Spanish. So I'll follow your advice and change her call for help for the third time! (and all this procrastination also means it will take longer before I'll have to deal with the rest of the scene, which I sorely fear will require things that my knowledge of the English language will not be able to adequately deal with at all.... sad

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With... Superman, Ayuda!!!! will be ok Ann smile

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Thanks, Jose!

Actually I'm getting a little confused... but Jose, you live in Spain, don't you? Not in Latin America? Not in Mexico? Not in a part of the United States where there are a lot of Mexican immigrants?

So, while you obviously are the best Spanish speaker of us all, I think I may be taking Sara's advice after all, seeing that she lives so close to the Mexican border. smile

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I grew up in San Diego, half an hour from the border. I still live in Southern California, and my school district has a large hispanic population. I was also taught Spanish (presumably the Mexican variation) in school. I would go with "Ayudame". My mom agrees, and she has worked with many Mexican immigrants.


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My Spanish isn't Mexican Spanish, so if people close to the border say it's "ayúdame", go with that.


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Well, in the spanish dubbed version, Luisa (that's Lois - her name is Luisa in the spanih version) yell "Ayuda, Superman!". She doesn't say "Ayudame", but it's correct to write it that way too. "Ayuda" = "Help" and "Ayudame" = "Help me". The two forms are imperative.

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Thanks, everybody! Well, ayudame it is, then! smile

The scene with the girl is actually an earthquake scene. Am I crazy or am I crazy, trying to write something like that? With my shaky knowledge of all the various bits and fragments you'd find on an earthquake scene, let alone my lack of knowledge of the proper English names of all those bits and fragments? :rolleyes:

At first, I was going to have the girl say "Help, Superman" and that would be it. He would get her out from wherever she was trapped and then go on and rescue others. But I've changed my mind. I feel I'm writing these earthquake scenes so poorly, so the fewer rubble-and-disaster scenes I work into my story, the better. Besides, for interesting reasons, people in my story are actually going to be afraid of Superman in this scene, so they'll chase him away!

So I think that after he has freed the girl, he'll fly away with her, trying to find a hospital for her. (He is actually abandoning the earthquake site, because his presence is just increasing the panic there.)

But this means that Superman is going to spend more time with the girl than I originally intended, so he'll need to speak with her. I like the idea that he could speak English with her and she'd understand, but she would answer in Spanish. He's going to answer what her name is (you know, "What's your name?") and she's going to answer ("My name is....").

What do you think? Maybe he, too, should speak Spanish. I'm sure he knows how to.

He's also going to ask her where her parents are, and she'll reply that she doesn't know.

I'm thinking of writing the story so that Clark flies the girl to Lois, and she is the one who brings the girl to hospital. The girl would ask Lois if Superman is her boyfriend. I think that she would ask the question so that it means "Are you two seeing each other? Are you in love?" rather than "Are you two married?"

So, right now, I think I may be needing the following lines in Spanish:

Thank you, Superman. (surely that would be "Gracias"? Or am I spelling it wrong? Maybe that was Italian?)

Are you all right?

What's your name?

My name is....

Where are your parents?

I don't know.

This is Lois. Lois, this is....

Hi.

Lois will take you to hospital.

Does your leg hurt?

Not much.

Good-bye.

Is he your boyfriend?

Please don't ask. And please don't talk about it with others.

I won't. They are afraid of him.

I'll leave you now. I'll be back.

When?

Don't know. Listen. I'll ask two nice people to pick you up. Martha and Jonathan. That okay?

Wow, people. Guess I'd better teach that girl to speak English in a jiffy, won't I, or else you'll have to write the entire story for me! wink

Anyway. You have been wonderfully helpful so far, and if anyone would like to help me with these new lines too, I'd very, very much appreciate it! notworthy

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Thank you, Superman.
Gracias, Superman.

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Are you all right?
Estas bien ? (the familiar form) or Esta usted bien? (the polite form)

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What's your name?
Como te llamas ? (the familiar form) or Como se llama usted ? (the polite form)

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My name is....
Me llamo...

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Where are your parents?
Donde estan tus padres? (the familiar form) Donde estan sus padres? (the polite form)

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I don't know.
No se.

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Hi.
Hola

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Lois will take you to hospital.
Lois te conducira al hospital. (familiar form) Lois conducira usted al hospital (polite form)

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Does your leg hurt?
Te duele tu pierna? (familiar form)
Se duele usted su pierna (polite form)

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Not much.
No mucho

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Good-bye.
Adios.

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Is he your boyfriend?
Es tu novio? (familiar form)
Es su novio? (polite form)

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Please don't ask. And please don't talk about it with others.
Por favor, no pregunta. And por favor, no habla de eso con otros.

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I won't. They are afraid of him.
No hablaro. Tienen miedo de el.

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I'll leave you now. I'll be back.
Ahora me voy. Volveré.

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When?
Cuando?

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Don't know. Listen. I'll ask two nice people to pick you up. Martha and Jonathan. That okay?
No se. Escuchame. Pediré dos amables personas que vienen a buscarte. Martha y Jonathan. De acuerdo? (familiar form)
No se. Escuchame. Pediré dos amables personas que vienen a buscar usted. Martha y Jonathan. de acuerdo?


Okay. I didn't talk spanish for more than 8 years, but at the time, I was completely bilingual, so I guess I didn't make too many errors. But two things:
- there is accents in many words, but I don't know how to type them with my keyboard so I hadn't.
- all the phrases that finish with ? or ! began by ? or ! upside down. I hadn't typed them because I don't know how to either.

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Thanks a bunch, Poussin!!! notworthy

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You're welcome. But as I said, I hadn't said a word in spanish in more than 8 years, so you should ask some other spanish speaker for any tippoes or grammar error... I'm not very sure of myself for some of my phrases. It was so long time ago last time I did it!

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