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Posted By: Anna B. the Greek So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 06:06 AM
Hello!

I would like to ask you something:

Where is (supposed to be) Metropolis?

I can recall a scene from the Pilot... Clark flies to China to bring Chinese to Lois, and we can see a map with his route... but I can't remember where did he begin his journey from.

Anyone who can remember the scene can answer.

AnnaBtG.
Posted By: Shadow Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 07:23 AM
I *think* (yeah that can get dangerous <g>) it's supposed to be around where New York City would be...

Jen
Posted By: Saskia Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 07:39 AM
I always thought Metropolis was supposed to be New York City. The weather has certain similarities, and so do the buildings.

And then there is the movie, Superman I with Chris Reeves. I clearly remember having seen the Statue of Liberty and other famous NYC building in the movie while they were still in Metropolis.

So Metropolis is on the east coast of the USA, quite a bit up north.

Saskia
Posted By: Anonymous Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 07:43 AM
I thought the city model for Metropolis was NYC too...only more futurist.

But, only to joke how about...not far from Gotham City? laugh

Carole
Posted By: LabRat Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 07:51 AM
It's not New York city - reference is made to NY in the show. In Man of Steel Bars, Lois complains at the press conference on the heat wave:

Lois: But why only Metropolis? It's twelve degrees in New York, there's eight inches of snow in Chicago and we're having a run on sunblock.

I know it doesn't answer your question, Anna, but this reminded me of a couple of interesting websites I discovered while surfing a while back. They're based on the comics, but still could be useful, I think, for authors looking for inspiration on the small details, here and there.

Map and Statistics of Metropolis
All About Metropolis


LabRat smile
Posted By: Karen Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 07:55 AM
This has been debated back and forth a few times over the years, I believe. It's been established that Metropolis is not New York, and New York exists on its own in the DC Universe. A fairly comprehensive site can be found below. laugh

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/carlb/metropolis.html
I've always thought that Metropolis looks a lot like New York, too - although it isn't.

Thanks for the links, LabRat!

Still, anyone who remembers that scene of the Pilot? (I think someone should check it - it might help)

AnnaBtG.
Posted By: ChiefPam Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 02:24 PM
I wouldn't put too much stock in the show's graphics. In "Honeymoon in Metropolis," graphics of the incoming wave clearly show that Metropolis has taken a holiday and is briefly in California wink

PJ
Posted By: malu Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 03:26 PM
This is what I found about the location of Metropolis (and other DC Comics cities):

Where are the "real" loca...ity, Hub City, etc., in the DC Universe?

malu
Posted By: YellowDartVader Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 07:41 PM
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Metropolis, as originally developed by Siegel and Shuster, was probably Cleveland, the "big city" with which they were most familiar.
Cleveland really was a big city when Siegel and Shuster created Superman. Too bad they didn't keep the setting of Metropolis as Cleveland... then I would have something to be proud of being from Cleveland wink . I mean, Cleveland has a Lake.. okay, it's a polluted Lake and not exactly an ocean. We have a river... but it did actually get set on fire once (so it is probably about as good as the Hobs River). We have a newspaper, okay not the Daily Planet... See, Cleveland, Metropolis, same place. It works.

- Alicia smile
Posted By: KathyM Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/06/03 09:27 PM
The link that Malu posted mentioned that there are also early references to Toronto. I remember reading through the posts on Zoom's old boards and seeing a reference that Toronto was the basis for Metropolis. Since that's where I grew up, it stuck in my mind smile , so I did a search just now and found the relevant thread.
20 Questions II

KathyM
Thank you all!

AnnaBtG. smile
Posted By: Karen Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/07/03 05:45 PM
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Too bad they didn't keep the setting of Metropolis as Cleveland... then I would have something to be proud of being from Cleveland .
See, there's a reason why I keep insisting Metropolis is in Illinois. wink It's pretty, it's close to water, and best of all, it's on the map. And I've even been there. laugh But for some reason, no one believes me. *sigh*
Posted By: Artemis Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/08/03 09:40 PM
The graphic in the Pilot episode is where New York would be. And the maps of Metropolis used througout the series bear a striking resemblance to lower Manhattan (Church of Metropolis). However, as pointed out, dialog clearly says New York City exists in the Lois and Clark universe. Many fanfic authors place Metropolis roughly between New York and Washington D.C. on the east coast of the US.
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Artemis
Posted By: Anne Spear Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/13/03 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Karen:
See, there's a reason why I keep insisting Metropolis is in Illinois. wink It's pretty, it's close to water, and best of all, it's on
But Metropolis is in Illinois...see?

[img]http://community.webshots.com/photo/3330738/3330944AloxzTXKyU[/img]
Posted By: Karen Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/15/03 09:51 AM
See! More proof! No one can refute me now! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Whoops. sorry. No maniacal laughter, I forgot. blush
Posted By: Anne Spear Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/16/03 11:27 AM
I don't know why the picture on my last post didn't work. Let's try it again.

[img]http://community.webshots.com/photo/3330738/3330944AloxzTXKyU[/img]
Posted By: Anne Spear Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/16/03 11:31 AM
Okay. I guess the webshots website doesn't support links (yes, I went and read the "how-to" post).

anyway, anyone interested in seeing what I've been trying to show...go here
Posted By: malu Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/16/03 12:07 PM
Anne,

My computer is trying to download the link you are posting, and when I click "open", nothing happens. Maybe there is something missing on the link.

malu
Posted By: Anne Spear Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/17/03 07:38 AM
It worked just now when I tried it. If this helps, the full address is:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/3330738/3330944AloxzTXKyU

HTH
Posted By: malu Re: So where's Metropolis, New Troy? - 06/17/03 07:54 AM
Anne, I just figured it out.

It helps to have the bar at the end of the link, as

http://community.webshots.com/photo/3330738/3330944AloxzTXKyU/

This worked. Now I understand why you definitively believe Metropolis is in Illinois. With something like that, who wouldn't? goofy

malu
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