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Posted By: gr8shadesofElvis Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/08/08 11:40 AM
Just me starting another Honesty FDK thread. Don't worry Beth, I haven't read it yet... devil
Posted By: Beth S. Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/08/08 11:48 AM
I just saw this when I refreshed the page and I was like "Wow, only 10 minutes after I posted?" But it makes sense now that I see you just started the thread before you read it.
Posted By: ChiefPam Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/08/08 11:56 AM
Well, I've read it... whoa. Lots of anger and frustration to go around. Nice of Jon not to leave Kaylie abandoned on that island. She didn't seem too worried about the possibility, either -- residual trust?

Speaking of which. He found all that out about her from Google???? eek Dang, I knew it was good, but that sort of thing ought to be classified... then again, maybe he's acquainted with Chloe Sullivan. laugh

Um, anyway... I want to read more but, just for once, not right away. There's a lot to digest in this post. So I guess a week's wait will be okay.

Good luck with the school/writing thing. It ain't easy to balance that out.

PJ
Posted By: gr8shadesofElvis Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/08/08 12:21 PM
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Wow, only 10 minutes after I posted?
Erm, no, I don't read that fast! goofy

Hmmm, I knew a Leigh Watson when I was little - classmate, not friend - but she was alright, as I recall...

*Beth let's out a shaky breath she didn't realise she'd been holding* wink

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The ride was bumpier than usual
The superhero way of illustrating a point?

Oh what a tangled web we weave... And then it's Dad to the rescue! I was wondering how she'd get home after that blowout. Sage advice he gave too, but then hindsight is 20/20.

Well done, as always.
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(The new year's resolution remains in tact - well, at least as far as this story is concerned.)
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/08/08 02:33 PM
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Instead he was digging a trench in the sand. No matter. I still had to keep talking. [...]Jor dug deeper in the ground and brought out a briefcase, which he opened and pulled a small stack of papers out of.
I definitely didn't see that one coming. Ingenious.

And how you managed to Jor in right next the Kaylie. You are quite evil. And yet, I guess it's a good thing, for both of them being hurt. No good guy, bad guy problems.

Oh, and of course: Meet the Dad smile1

Michael
Posted By: Shadow Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/08/08 08:24 PM
I think I'm too tired to say anything besides great part, but it did rock. Mannn. Okay maybe Kaylie should have thrown him a bone at some point but for Jor to slap an NIA file into the mix, there's officially plenty of blame to go around. :p And an aww and a yay to Superman for being able to step in. He's a good dad. :p

JD
Posted By: Laurach Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/08/08 10:28 PM
Wow! This is emotioanly charged. Nice job. Laura
Posted By: dedecasale Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 05:28 AM
Oh, I love a good fight this chapter is good.


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Posted By: MrsMosley Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 06:27 AM
Ouch! Lots of pain in this chapter. Jor did pretty much exactly what I hoped he wouldn't do. *sigh* Part of me hopes we will be back to waffiness next chapter, but most of me knows they've still got more to work on. Either way, I'll be looking forward to it. smile

Lisa
Posted By: carolm Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 08:07 AM
This was wonderful. While they were fighting I wondered if another superhero would come to take her home - though I wasn't sure which one. Clark works smile . Good thing Lois did that interview and not him wink .

Why don't I remember them meeting on the street? /me may have to go reread it all later *sigh* Have to read for school first... Maybe for a break...

More? Now?
Carol
Posted By: Lara Joelle Kent Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 01:28 PM
Another great chapter to an intriguing story! And, although the circumstances are somewhat less than perfect, Kaylie by now knows the whole family... (Even if she doesn't know it yet.)
Posted By: Beth S. Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 02:40 PM
Wow, thanks everyone for all the feedback!

PJ:
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Nice of Jon not to leave Kaylie abandoned on that island. She didn't seem too worried about the possibility, either -- residual trust?
I see it as a combination of that, and also that she's too upset to really be thinking about getting home at the moment. After all, when Clark appeared and she thought he was Jon at first, she told him to go away. Either way, I think it was probably a good thing that Clark came to pick her up because otherwise it would be a very unplesant ride home!

gr8shades, I have to admit I was crossing my fingers when I posted this. After all there's not only one new name, but three, technically. Now that I passed through unscathed, I can relax. Whew!

Michael:
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And yet, I guess it's a good thing, for both of them being hurt. No good guy, bad guy problems.
Yes, they both definitely screwed up! And I think it really changes from person to person who you're naturally going to side with. But here's a question for you: Who do you think should make the first move to apologize?

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I think I'm too tired to say anything besides great part, but it did rock
Thanks JD! Hope you got to catch up on your z's!

Laura:

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This is emotioanly charged.
Yep. Lots of pent up emotion on Kaylie's part, and lots of past history on Jon's. I think someone before predicted an explosion? Well, this is it.

dedecasale:

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Oh, I love a good fight
Me too! I have to say that I love writing fights more than waff. Something about letting my characters scream at each other for a few pages makes me happy somehow...

Lisa:

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Jor did pretty much exactly what I hoped he wouldn't do.
Geez, what is wrong with these characters? You'd think they would learn to behave by now!

Carol:

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Why don't I remember them meeting on the street?
I don't remember exactly what part # it is, but Jon spilled coffee on Kaylie, and after she confronted him, she drew a picture of him with his glasses and everything and then threw it in the fire. Does that help to ring any bells?

Lara, thanks for commenting! I don't know you were reading this!
Posted By: carolm Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 02:51 PM
*sigh * No. But my remember-y isn't what it used to be - too many pregnancy hormones this century have scrambled my neurons or something. I am putting it on my to reread list [but at the moment I'm rereading Imbalance by Phil/Tarkas and Wendy which has never made it to the archive [why is that?] but I remember not reading the end of it... So chapter in book for school, two parts of Imbalance, chapter in book... at this rate it'll be Spring before I'm done because there are well over 60 parts to Imbalance after all... and for those of you haven't read it because it's not on the archive... RUN to the Index smile ]

Carol [who hates that things like real life get in the way of all the fun]
Posted By: Darth Michael Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Beth S.:
Michael:
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And yet, I guess it's a good thing, for both of them being hurt. No good guy, bad guy problems.
Yes, they both definitely screwed up! And I think it really changes from person to person who you're naturally going to side with. But here's a question for you: Who do you think should make the first move to apologize?
Great. But good training laugh (Mine could easily develop to have a similar conundrum smile )

Anyway, back to the question. Didn't Perry tell Clark one day that it doesn't matter who was right. Clark should just buy flowers and chocolate and apologize? But seriously, Jon did overreact a bit, all things considered. He should have learned a lot from his parents history. About secrets, about hurt. They did tell him their history, didn't they? But his name is Supernova after all smile

Michael

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Originally posted by carolm:
I'm rereading Imbalance by Phil/Tarkas and Wendy which has never made it to the archive [why is that?] [...] there are well over 60 parts to Imbalance after all... and for those of you haven't read it because it's not on the archive... RUN to the Index smile
*RUNS* Found it
66 chapters and unfinished?
Posted By: carolm Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by Darth_Michael:

66 chapters and unfinished?
ARGH! I looked at the top of part 66 and it says: "Writer's block is a terrible thing -- especially when it's only a minor detail that's holding you up! [Frown] Anyway, inspiration finally struck [Thumbsup] and here's the latest chapter..."

And I read that as *last* chapter... *sigh* I knew there was a reason why I didn't remember finishing it [see that remember-y thing again]. Maybe Phil and/or Wendy have the [unposted] end languishing on a harddrive somewhere...

Carol [who still loves Honesty wink ]
Posted By: anonpip Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 09:10 PM
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Who do you think should make the first move to apologize?
Not this will come as any surpise to you, Beth, but I am definitely all for Jon apologizing first. I mean he unfairly didn't give Kaylie a chance to explain, even knowing she was planning to come clean and then he abandoned her on a deserted island.

A few chapters ago, I would have said that there's almost nothing you could do to make me feel like Kaylie got her due for not letting Jon know she had a secret. But it turns out that wasn't true. This is it.

Still, though, while a big fan of waffiness, the fight was great. It was good to see Jon and Kaylie getting very "real" with each other.

And I'm so glad to see all the positive reviews. Hopefully it makes the multiple versions seem worth it?
Posted By: Terry Leatherwood Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/09/08 10:30 PM
I can see Jon's side of this argument. I mean, she kept a huge secret from him! And the NIA doesn't exactly have a chummy history with Superman. Jon's reaction to Kaylie's secret is understandable.

But I don't think it's reasonable. After all, she'd just told him that she had a BIG SECRET! she needed to tell him. And just because Amanda didn't understand, that doesn't mean Kaylie won't. Plus, it's not like he's trusted her with his biggest secret yet. He needs to be the first one to apologize.

As I write this, I'm listening to Bonnie Raitt's "I Can't Make You Love Me," which is one of the most melancholy love songs I've ever heard. It's full of despair and pieces of torn hearts and unfulfilled expectations and broken relationships and it's almost painful to listen to, especially when writing feedback to this chapter of this particular story.

Jon! Go to Kaylie and tell her the eight magic words! Here they are: "I was wrong. I'm sorry. Please forgive me." If you can't say them, you don't love her enough. And you're the one who punted the pooch this time, boy.

What are you waiting for? Move it, you second-generation lunkhead!
Posted By: Beth S. Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/10/08 12:12 PM
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Not this will come as any surpise to you, Beth, but I am definitely all for Jon apologizing first
What? Really? I wouldn't have guessed! What with all the anti-Jon comments you left when you edited. But thanks again for reading through so many versions of this chapter to get to the right one. You'll notice that I decided to bow to your infinite wisedom, and went with the version you liked best.

Terry:

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s I write this, I'm listening to Bonnie Raitt's "I Can't Make You Love Me," which is one of the most melancholy love songs I've ever heard. It's full of despair and pieces of torn hearts and unfulfilled expectations and broken relationships and it's almost painful to listen to, especially when writing feedback to this chapter of this particular story.
I don't think I've heard the song, but I imagine it would make you a little pessimistic in regards to happy couples. But although I like writing angry fights, I also like happy endings.
Posted By: Alisha Knight Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/10/08 12:31 PM
peep Hi, I just thought I'd crawl out from under the rock I've adopted for the next couple of weeks...

Thoughts on this part: Jon is an even bigger lunkhead than his father! His reaction, however ill-advised, is understandable but leaving Kaylie on an island somewhere and sending his dad to pick her up - come on! :rolleyes:

(Alisha crawls back under her rock...)
Posted By: Beth S. Re: Comments: Honesty 12/? - 01/12/08 03:11 PM
Hey Alisha, thanks for the feedback!

But you do realize that this allows me to bug you for a new part of Specimen, right?
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