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Posted By: MLT What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/24/06 07:51 PM
After reading Nan's post, I find myself wanting a definition of a deathfic so that I don't post one without a warning (assuming I ever write one). Here is a possible list to choose from.

1. A story where Lois and/or Clark die,
2. A story where any of the main characters die (ie, Lois, Clark, Martha, Jonathon, Perry, Jimmy)
3. A story where a recurring character dies (ie, Mayson, Dan, Ralph, Cat, Jack, etc)
4. A story where one of the goodguys die.
5. A story where anyone, including the bad guys, dies.
6. A story that focuses on death or uses the death as the focal point of the story.

I would have thought only number 1 would make a Lois and Clark story a death fic, but lately I've begun to question that hypothosis. Could someone please enlighten me?

ML wave
Posted By: BanAnna Re: What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/24/06 07:58 PM
I think if it was me I would tend to only give a warning for numbers 1 and 2, but I'd be interested in what other people think, especially those who like to read such warnings. I'm one who doesn't like to have a warning, so I don't like to be the one to determine what should be warned against.

And here's another option for people to choose from:
7. A story where Lois or Clark *almost* dies and/or dies but comes back to life somehow.

~Anna
Posted By: Shadow Re: What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/24/06 09:31 PM
I vote for number 2. I'm okay with minor characters dying, but I prefer when the main characters of the story stay alive, whether it be our usual slew of Planet employees, or other original characters the author has created.

Jen
Posted By: HatMan Re: What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/24/06 11:38 PM
2 and 6 for me.

If a major character (in the show or the story) dies, and/or if the death of a character is a key/focal part of the story, I prefer to have a general (and relatively spoiler-free) head's up.

Paul
Posted By: SJH Re: What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/25/06 01:34 AM
Death just isnt very attractive to me, so 5,6 and 7.
Posted By: Tahu Re: What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/25/06 02:49 AM
And what if I let Lois best girl friend get killed in an accident but you'll never get to know her best friend? Is a death fic?
Posted By: LabRat Re: What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/25/06 03:11 AM
I think there's a difference here in what 'officially' constitutes a deathfic as a genre and tastes in reading.

Officially, a deathfic is a fic where the main characters die. Not almost die. Not die and then are miraculously ressurrected. But die. End of story. If the characters are alive at the end of the story, it's not a deathfic.

Minor, recurring or peripheral characters don't usually constitute deathfic either. And certainly very few villains make the genre. Although, there are probably exceptions to the rule there in some fandoms, where the villains have an exceptionally high status within the show.

Now, when it comes to what people like/don't like to read - that's a horse of another colour. And, of course, sometimes it's a matter of differing opinion as to just who is a main character in a show. Sometimes that's not cut and dried. Lois and Clark, of course, in our fandom. But Jimmy? Perry? Cat? Some would say yes. Some would consider them recurring or peripheral. As with most things in fandom, it's never that easy to draw a definitive line. wink

Often, I think, whether a particular reader is affected by a deathfic depends not on how important or otherwise a character was in the show, but how important that character is to them. How strong an emotional response they have to them.

Bobby Bigmouth, for example, couldn't be called a main character. But if a particular reader really, really liked him on the show, they might consider a story in which he dies horribly a deathfic, where someone else wouldn't.

I've been quite surprised by some of the answers here, so by the looks of things it's probably wise to include a warning if you're going to kill or almost kill off anyone in your story. Just to be on the safe side. laugh

With the proviso, of course, that you don't have a fundamental objection to warnings/spoilers in your story.

LabRat smile
Posted By: YConnell Re: What constitutes a deathfic? - 05/25/06 06:20 AM
ML, speaking from experience, you need at least one other option:

7. A story where Lois and/or Clark is already dead.

Yvonne smile
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