1. A crossover between Lois And Clark and the Chris Reeve Superman movies. (I did read one where Lois and Clark watch the first movie, and the writer said they might do the other 3 but they didn't. However I'd like to see the two Supermen and Loises interacting.) It'd be set after Superman IV and after the final episode of Lois and Clark.

2. A Lois and Clark/ Harry Potter crossover. Set after season 1 but before S2 of Lois and Clark and after the latest HP book (For people reading this in a few years that's Half-Blood Prince.) Also no having Supes kill Voldy, anyone who's read the fifth Potter book knows why, besides the fact that Superman doesn't kill.

3. A story where Clark fights General Zod and his two followers. From Zod's perpesctive.

4. Clark is exposed to Kryptonite as Clark in a room filled with media and he can't let it show how it's effecting him without revealing his secret....

5. Clark is found dead on his thousandth birthday. How does the world cope without a Superman after having one for so long?

6. Lois is killed because Superman wasn't there in time. Clark's reaction from Perry's point of view. Perry doesn't know The Secret.

7. Lois's life after Tempus succeds in killing Baby Clark....

Someone please write them. Thanks.

OK, adding on the list here are some ideas I've had.

Nightfall fragments on next orbital pass 10 years later?

Lucy is in 3rd world prison at very beginning
Lois is going to rescue her. This means that Superman starts off breaking someone out of prison, interfering in a governments actions.

Lois and Lucy are sent to live with an aunt in Smallville when parents divorce.

Lois has Bruce train Clark after Clark loses powers since he can't stop helping

Lois as something other than a reporter, something criminal like a cat burglar

Well's Victorian idea of utopia vs that of someone from the modern world?

Since Batman trusts Catwoman Clark reveals himself when needed even though Bruce hasn't yet.

Since magic works in L&C world maybe the Borneo Fertility statue is fix to the no children bit?

Clois survives, becomes a writer (novelist?), wins a Pulitzer before Lois does.

Doing something about New Kryptonians and lack of rights in that culture

Clark uses fake gadgets to make it look like he is human instead of using his powers openly

<<Lois and Lucy are sent to live with an aunt in Smallville when parents divorce.>>
There is a fic on the archive that does this - can't recall if Lucy is in it though. But it's a good story, mid-length, well written ... now if only I could remember the title and author. I beleive the author was about 16 and i was impressed by her talent.

<<Doing something about New Kryptonians and lack of rights in that culture>>
Most longer NK fics address this issue, but don't actually 'do something' about it. However, Jenni Debbage's Universal Union series does take this as a major theme and her characters make some headway.

c

Did some searching - here's that title:
A New Beginning
By Christy Landrum

c

Well, one of the themes of Hearts Divided is the need for change on NK, and I started a number of avenues for reform -- I didn't actually dive into the culture war that would ensue, though, which is probably the bit you're interested in

PJ

There is also a story where Lois is engaged in criminal activities. In Cindy Leuch's Shades of Grey , she's an arsonist.


Wendy

So any chance of someone writing these ideas? I like dcarson's ideas a lot too especially the Nightfall fragments one.....

Nightfall fragments? Hmm... you could say that my For the Greater Good deals with this premise...


Wendy

I've deleted the new duplicate thread, you started here, Jensguy, and moved the original thread in Fanfic Related to here.

If you ever need or want a thread moved, just email the admins and we'll be happy to do that for you.

LabRat

Thanks Labrat, much appriciated.

"With great heroes come greater villians" Lex Luthor.

...and I did this:

here: Fear of Discovery

except he wasn't very successful in hiding his reaction.

Yvonne

Great. I look forward to reading it after I finish S6....

"They" -- which would be me -- have every intention of continuing the Couch Potato series, and I have about 40 pages of CP2 written; it's just that it's in bits and pieces, and nothing like a coherent story yet. The others will, I hope, come in time (and yes, I know how long it's been since CP first appeared, but I did say that it was going to be an intermittent series... ), along with a couple of related couch tales -- such as L&C watching My Hero

Phil

Looking forward to reading more Couch Potato stories. I thought you weren't gonna bother coz it's been a few years since you wrote the first one. I thought it was brilliantly written and was very disapointed to find you hadn't writen anymore in the series. Oh well, I guess I can wait a few more years for part 2.

Oh, and the My Hero thing, great idea. Maybe for another episode in the series you could throw in the cheesy 60's Batman with them sitting watching it with their world's Bruce Wayne? I think given the time of L&C, that'd be the M.Keaton/V.Kilmer/G.Clooney version...

As for the HP crossover, Tempus could strand them in an alternate world at a different point in time. Clark gets hit by an Avada Kedavra curse. (Flash of green light and Kryptonite is green) So he loses his powers but doesn't die because he bounces off him. Something to do with the effect of travelling between worlds and time or the fact that his quantum signiture is different to that of the curse.... Just a rough idea off the top of my head. Something a bit more origanal than Voldemort finds Kryptonite and uses it on the boy blue scout.....

Well, actually, CP3 is, if and when it happens, going to be L&C and Bruce and Silver (St Cloud -- I have decided that that CP takes place in the same universe as my story Lois & Clark & Silver & Bruce) sitting around at Wayne Manor watching the first Keaton Batman movie. Bruce is going to laugh his head off when he sees Vicki Vale for the first time -- "That's Vicki? What happened to her red hair?" And there's a certain irony in that the Vicki character in the film was originally going to be Silver, just as "Boss Grissom" was going to be Rupert Thorne until the suits messed it all up. "Jack Napier" was nothing like as insane as Englehart's Joker, which will be another talking point -- "I wish the Joker was that predictable..."

As for the HP crossover, you can do all sorts of things given Superman's well-established vulnerability to magic, but the story would be dead boring if Clark wasn't super -- what's the point of having 2 more Muggles running around, unable to help? But if you do have Superman involved, you have to take account of the fact that super-speed gives him a big advantage. Spells in the Potterverse move slowly enough to be seen, dodged and shielded against after they've been cast; this is why I have written a story in which Moldy's Dark Army gets its collective backside handed to it by the DA, the Order and an Army batallion using standard infantry weapons. Bullets are supersonic, you see; by the time you hear a shot, it's either hit its target or is well past you. Superman is even faster.

Phil

CP3? What happened to CP2?

Great idea for CP3 though........

I suppose there'd have to be something happening like him getting hit in the back by a spell that reduces but doen't take away his powers completely....

Anyone ever written a story involving Superman, a mysterious stranger, a blue box and loads of intelligent yet single-minded killing pepperpots?

How bout one where Lois is killed by Lex.....

A crossover with Spider-Man where the radioation from the spider that bit Pete was Kryptonite and for some reason they can't get away from each other as Clark is badly affected?

Jimmy is shot instead of Clark in TOGOM?

Same but Perry instead?

Clark is having an affair with his female double from an alternate universe.....

By the way can I read the Potter story?

Dagger of the Mind dealt with *one* Nightfall fragment ...

Nan

If Earth is the universe's crazy home, why am I here?

By the way Yvonne, brilliant work, I love your stuff......

Thank you.

Yvonne

What d'ya expect to hear when you are to fanfic what Orwell was to political writing, Dahl was to children's books, what I am to poetry?

There seems to be a death thing going here, maybe some one can write a story where *everybody* dies.

Think a few of us have done that already, SJH. There was my Tank Ending to my story Are You Lonesome Tonight, where I killed off the entire planet, for instance, and I'm sure I wasn't the first or last...

LabRat

Holy gingivitis. I read 'Are You Lonesome Tonight' Labrat and enjoyed it thoroughly.Did'nt know there was a
Tank ending too. I must check it out.

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5. Clark is found dead on his thousandth birthday. How does the world cope without a Superman after having one for so long?

6. Lois is killed because Superman wasn't there in time. Clark's reaction from Perry's point of view. Perry doesn't know The Secret.

7. Lois's life after Tempus succeds in killing Baby Clark....


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I like these ideas!

I'm twisted...

ohhh...these too!

*blinks* though...that last one just hit me as something straight out of "Sliders" but anyway...

will brainstorm these...

If someone wants to deal with Lois's life after baby Clark is killed, I'm sure it would be ... interesting. Ditto Clark's reaction after Lois is killed -- but I wouldn't be reading them. It wouldn't be the Lois and Clark romance, and bleak endings to Lois and Clark fics don't interest me. I've never understood the urge to make the characters permanently unhappy. Even as a writing exercise.

Nan

Yay, Nan! I'm right with you on that one. Angst is one thing, but let's-see-how-horrible-we-can-be-to-the-characters has no appeal for me at all. And stories about Lois without Clark or Clark without Lois (or a reasonable substitute like Lori Lyons ) just miss the point, IMO.

Oh, and the affair with a female double from an AU doesn't remind me so much of Sliders as Red Dwarf... and you'll remember what happened to the male Lister after his drunken night with his female counterpart! OTOH, a meeting between Clark and, say, Superwoman from a world like that in "Clark and Lois: the New Adventures of Superwoman" -- a long-lost fic of which I can only hope that I am remembering the title correctly, since my copy of it is elsewhere -- might be interesting, though what the author would do with "our" Lois and Superwoman's Clark is something of a stumbling block.

Phil

Of course, that's not always the motivation for such a fic. Many fans write fanfic to explore all possible possibilities out there, all the angles, all the what ifs...dark and light and all shades in between. It's curiosity to see how a specific change in the characters' histories would ricochet through their lives that interests them, rather than trying to be mean to the characters.

Although, there are writers who write the former, too, of course, just for the heck of it.

LabRat

Big fan of both shows, no wonder that plot idea got into the list, lol.

Wasn't a consious thing though, I didn't think of it having been used before, not only that, but TWICE!.... LOL.

I'd like to read about Clark growing up as each of his powers came in and how he and his parents reacted to them, and the relationships he had that made him the man he is today. Maybe it could be a flashback or the beginning of a story, because that wouldn't truly be LOIS AND Clark, it would just be Clark.

I still love the relationship between Clark and his parents.

Cheryl

To this, I just wanna say....Mwahahahaha!!

Akshully, if you drop over to Schnoogle.com I'm sure they have a lot of Superman/HP crossovers. FF.net might have any amount as well. I've seen 'em but never cared to read 'em, largely because they're mostly based on "Smallville". Which makes sense, 'cos that way, both our heroes can be teenagers. Only, I think an angst fest involving TWO angsty saviour-of-the world types would be too much for me to stomach. I feel enough like hurling every time I see another TOGOM re-write anyway, so angst isn't all that attractive for me right now.

By which way, why do I feel like us FolCs are woefully in the minority these days? Whatever happened to viewership solidarity? Or is it just me?


Hasini

*Points upward*
I honestly have no idea how I manged to do that to my reply.
You'll have to sort it out. Sorry guys!
But what'd I do, anyway?

What happened, Lady_Mirth, is that you seem to have typed your response in the quote box, between "mind of Lois Lane" and "Phil." Exactly how that happened depends on how you quoted the original text, but it's not hard to do -- just obviously not what you had in mind. You could go back and edit it using the "edit post" function, or not, as you see fit.

As for the perceived lack of FoLCs of late, well, that inevitably happens when a show ends, and L&C has been gone for 8 years now -- heck, it's their 10th wedding anniversary coming up this year! Many people who enjoyed the show while it was being shown drift away without their regular "fix" -- and there was very little L&C memorabilia to remind them of it -- and so the fans that are still active are the ones who really loved the show (and/or its fandom) and have stuck with it for that reason. Some have been lured away by other shows (regrettably including Smellville, which I for one would banish to the deepest depths of Gehenna, taking most of the DC editorial staff with it) or other interests, and others have had RL encroach on their time for much more than lurking. The people who post here are the "hard core" FoLCs, who have maintained their interest and their links with other fans -- and more power to their elbows!

Phil, who wouldn't touch an HP/Smellville crossover with the proverbial 40-foot barge pole

Thanks, I got it!
Aww, c'mon. Smallville isn't that bad!
I haven't actually had time to watch it, but I got down the episode transcripts and it seems quite interesting.
It's no Lois and Clark, of course, but it has it's merits.

I've always wanted to write a story where Mayson is part of B39. Taking over for Trask... "Never send a man to do a woman's job." I thought it would have fit well with her attitude towards Supes... but she seemed to be someone who would roll her eyes at how badly Trask bungled everything and such. Now, whether she'd turn out to be a good guy or a bad guy at the end (when she finds out that he's Clark and that he's sincere and all)...? Maybe it would be a good soul searching fic for Mayson... Or maybe she'd just turn out to be a b--ch :p

I'm never going to have time to write this though... so if anyone thinks they could do a good one...
I would, however, love to be a BR if anyone who writes this would like one.

I would *love* a crossover with Lois & Clark and Scarecrow and Mrs. King or with Lois & Clark and Remington Steele. Don't care whether the look-alike Moms are aknowledged or anyone is related. I'm more interested in the SMK one, I guess, but either would be great. Don't care if the "correct" timelines are used or if the shows are considered to have occured simultaneously or if Superman makes his first appearance two days after the other show's season finale.

I just think it would be really neat to see how the IFF responded to Superman's arrival (he could definitely be a potential threat to national security - plus they might think it some kind of hoax first). Or if they've heard of Bureau 39 or have an opinion if they hear Trask is looking into it. Do they hear about the events of "The Green, Green Glow of Home"? Or what to they think of the New Kryptonian invasion?

Or if they're related, we could have Amanda and Dotty's reactions to the newspapers saying Superman and Lois are having an affair. It'd be hilarious to see them conversing with Ellen about it.

In that case, if you haven't read them already, I refer you to the works of Elaine M. Gustainis on the Archive. Her first story, By The Light Of The Silvery Moon, is a mega-crossover with SMK and three or four other shows, including Remington Steele, though some of the connections are second-hand at best or really only cameos -- The X-Files, for instance. Still, they're good stories.

Phil

I'll certainly check them out, though I was looking for a two-show crossover. More than three shows and things tend to get confusing(at least when you don't watch all the shows).

ETA: Actually, I've seen that one before. I don't watch half shows and don't know who half the characters are.

A CSI: Las Vegas or CSI: New York* crossover, with Lois and Clark both suspects in a murder case. Must include at least one member of the CSI team baffled by Clark's DNA, and preferably at least one member of the team putting the pieces together and working out that Clark is Superman.

* Not Miami please, can't stand most of the characters.

Ooh! That would be fun, Marcus! Something semi-similar along those lines, but with fingerprints, happens in Wendy's 24 Hours.

Sara

*dusts off username after so much time away*

I'd like to see a Lois in the aftermath of being unable to save Baby Clark story. Of course she wouldn't remember Clark when she's thrust back into her own reality, but perhaps, she's 'haunted' by a spector that encourages her to try time travel again?

I'd also like a story that incorporates Smallville's Chloe into the L&C universe (writer's feel free to junk Lois visiting SMALLVILLE in seasons four and five)

Oh and what if Clark continued to have amnesia after taking care of the Nightfall fragment?

Smallville is horrible. Clark is such an idiot about Lana throughout the whole thing and I feel he's supposed to love Lois (or her equivelent in AUs) A story about Chloe though, would be great. I like her- she kept Clark's secret when she found out and even though she loves him, and he's going out with Lana , she's still his and Lana's friend. I would love a story of Clark's boyhood with Chloe there (and probally Lana, sigh) It would be even better if Chloe somehow becomes Lois (Amnesia?, she was in a witness protection program, or Lois had been killed by Tempus as a baby so it was Clark and Chloe who were soulmates or something) and she marries Clark. (Later, when they'll meet at the daily planet- and them not recognising each other could be fun) I think Chloe deserves it- she's a great character (at least she was before I gave up on Smallvile)

It would be interesting to see something happen between clark and chloe, but she should just give up after 5 seasons because he loves lana.....on the contrary to what people say about Smallville being a bad show....I LOVE IT.. and the bickering stares between Lois and Clark in it are getting better...it actually does have some plot lines that are similiar to those of Lois and Clark and the New Adventures of Superman, which of course make it even better....for those of you who don't like it for its lana/clark relationship...try watching the newer episodes that have more of lois and clark connection than a lana and clark...course im biased for the show but the lois-clark of Smallville gets some great laughs out of me

Reviving a very old thread - I'm a fan of a show called Dexter, which is basically CSI: Miami except rather more realistic plus the viewpoint character, who is the guy who does their blood work, is secretly a serial killer who targets other killers.

Now if he realised who Superman was there might be interesting consequences - he probably wouldn't want to try to kill Superman, he's very firm in not wanting to kill anyone who doesn't deserve it, but he might try to take advantage some other way. Or help in some way, e.g. by killing off one of Superman's more murderous foes. In the show he has manipulated evidence to get a killer acquitted so that he could get access and kill him.

Right now I can't quite think how he would get the blood sample in the first place - kryptonite bullets seem the best bet, but they're a little cliched - and in any case I'm up to my eyes in work and won't be able to write much fanfic for the next few months, so I pass the idea on to anyone who can use it.