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Posted By: Anne Spear One Space or Two - 08/13/03 01:43 PM
I've been noticing in stories that some people only use one space between sentences within a paragraph and others use two. I was always taught to use two, so I was wondering what the majority thought.

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Posted By: malu Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 01:53 PM
Anne, I, too, was always taught that two spaces should be inserted between sentences within a paragraph. That is what I answered in the poll.

malu
Posted By: YellowDartVader Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:04 PM
I was always taught 2 spaces, but when I was working on a project with my friend from Ethiopia last year in school, he and I had a lot of trouble because he used one space and I used two. So I would change all of his one spaces to two and he would go back and change all of my two spaces to one -- without even realizing that it annoyed me wink . I think it is something you are taught -- maybe a cultural thing? Because he had no idea that 2 spaces was acceptable.

- Laura smile
Posted By: rivka Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:17 PM
I was taught to use two, so that's what I answered in the poll.

Then I did a search. The Grammar Lady says one space.

This site explains the origins of the confusion. On a typewriter, one must use two spaces. However, most computer fonts are designed to have only one space after the period. It also shows what the difference looks like using different fonts.

This Word tutorial explains how to set Word's grammar checker to either insist on one space at the end of a sentence or two. It also claims that one space "is currently the preferred style, especially for writing done on a word processor."

Jack Lynch says that two is more common, but one is used sometimes. He says it's another example of "house style." He also comments
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In any case, it's nothing to fret about.

I get a ridiculous amount of mail about this one point — at least one (often heated) message a week, more than on all the other topics in this guide put together. I wish I understood this strange passion. My only advice to those who want to quarrel about it is that your time would be better spent worrying about other things.
I love Jack Lynch. laugh
Posted By: Anna B. the Greek Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:19 PM
I don't know which one I support, so I haven't voted (yet).

When I first started typing, I used two spaces between words. I used to always use the font 'Times New Roman' and it seemed to me that one space was too little. (I tend to leave big spaces between words when I handwrite.) But I left only one space after a punctuation mark, and also used to write "it 's" insted of "it's", "he 'll" instead of "he'll" and so on.

After I started writing fanfic, though, everyone who tried to BR or GE a story for me was complaining about the double spaces. So I now use one space between words. But also left 'Times New Roman'. Now I use 'Verdana', the font that the boards use too, and it looks better with one space between words.

AnnaBtG.
Posted By: Saskia Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:19 PM
I've always used one space, have been thaught that since the moment I learned to write (typing in this case). It surprised me very much to hear there were people who used two spaces. For as far as I know, it's another difference between the US and Europe. I may be wrong there, but my English teacher (who's from the UK) never mentioned it, so I think the UK uses one space too.

I've seen it both ways now, and although I'll always use one space, I don't see it as a problem to read fics with two spaces.

Saskia
Posted By: Shadow Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:23 PM
I've always been taught to use one space...Around 7th grade, my computer gasped at me one day and said, "Don't you know you're supposed to use TWO SPACES?!" But she was always a little nutty to begin with, and she never brought it up again, so I never considered it to be a big deal. I didn't hear about 2 spaces again until I joined the fanfic universe.
Posted By: YConnell Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:23 PM
I, too, was taught to use two, back in the dim and distant past when I learned how to touch-type.

Yvonne
Posted By: rivka Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:27 PM
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my computer gasped at me one day and said, "Don't you know you're supposed to use TWO SPACES?!" But she was always a little nutty to begin with
rotflol I know this is a typo, Jen, but leave it this way -- it's really funny!
Posted By: malu Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:30 PM
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Around 7th grade, my computer gasped at me one day and said, "Don't you know you're supposed to use TWO SPACES?!"
I didn't know computers could talk by themselves! wink

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But she was always a little nutty to begin with,
and it's a female! goofy

malu
Posted By: Shadow Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:36 PM
rotflol
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I blame it on all the Robitussin.

Hmm, okay, the consensus (Rivka) says to leave the typo in...
Posted By: ChiefPam Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 02:58 PM
When I was taught to type, I was taught two spaces. And when I typed for a living, just a few years ago, we always used two spaces. Although a lot of those things were for the EPA, and gov't is always about a decade behind on these things...

I occasionally get comments on it from my GEs, but I just tell 'em that it doesn't matter which one I pick, so long as I'm consistent about it, and I like the two spaces, so...

PJ
whose fingers (okay, thumb) automatically do two spaces after every period.
Posted By: LabRat Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 04:05 PM
I was always taught it was two, but over the years, when I haven't been typing for anyone but me, I've become lazy and only manage one.

LabRat smile
Posted By: KathyM Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 04:07 PM
Well, I voted one space, but that's only because that's what I use now. smile Back when I was learning to touch-type on a typewriter thirty-odd years ago (probably before anyone ever dreamed of a home computer), we were rigidly taught two spaces, like others have already said.

When I started using a computer, I continued with that, for a while. But then I started noticing that not *everyone* was using two spaces. So I tried it. It took a little while to get adjusted to, since I type quickly, but I learned to really like it. Why? One less key to press every sentence, so it meant a slight increase in speed and fewer keys to type. laugh

And Anna, I use Times New Roman all the time, but I don't think just one space is too small. I guess it's just a matter of what we get accustomed to...

KathyM
Posted By: RL Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 05:28 PM
It seems like everyone else who was taught to touch type way back in the dim past, I was taught to always use two spaces. That's what I do now, and being a touch typist, I doubt I could kick the habit.
Posted By: Blayne Re: One Space or Two - 08/13/03 07:47 PM
In all of my computer keyboarding classes I have been taught to type one space after... But then in my freshman year of high school, I had to write a research paper putting two spaces, and ended up getting a bad grade on it because I kept forgetting that I had to put two spaces instead of one... I was definately not a happy camper when I got that report back! mad I think one official way of doing it needs to be set, so there's not so much confusion.
Posted By: AnnieM Re: One Space or Two - 08/14/03 12:38 AM
I was always taught two spaces. I don't really remember the first time anyone told me to use two spaces, it was just always the standard growing up. But AP Style (and all other journalists really) uses one space for the simple reason that it takes up less space. In journalism, everything is focused on saving space - cramming as many words into the smallest space possible. Since the vast majority of the writing I have been doing for the last three years in journalism, my brain is now wired to type only one space. I actually like two spaces, so I try to make an effort to do two spaces when writing anything but journalism (fiction, emails, etc) but it's hard to make that switch since I do both each day - often switching back and forth at the same time. So I usually wind up forgetting the second space half the time. Then I have to go back afterwards and make sure everything is the same. I really need to just give in and do one space all the time.

Long story short, this is another case where I think either is right as long as you're consistant. smile

Annie
Posted By: Anne Spear Re: One Space or Two - 08/14/03 07:09 AM
Wow, 23 votes. Not bad for my first poll. I'm glad I found a subject worth debating.

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Posted By: Karen Re: One Space or Two - 08/14/03 08:02 AM
I was also taught two spaces way back in grade school (several years of typing classes.. why did it take me until after I graduated to really learn?). Since then, it's become an ingrained habit to use 2 spaces. The only time I don't use 2 spaces is when I'm really lazy wink and in my logs for work. We have a limited space type everything in, and sometimes I have to go through and look for spaces to take out so I can add more stuff to the log.
Posted By: Melisma Re: One Space or Two - 08/14/03 07:22 PM
When I took typing (one term, back in grade 11, and I'm really slow) they taught me two spaces. And when I type on a typewriter (BTW, can't remember when the last time I did *that* - typewriters are so... so... passe?) I do use two. I also use two if I'm typing up something formal, like a job cover letter or something like that where you might have a picky reader. But in email and fanfic and other less formal instances, I use just one. Saves time and space, and in places where they count every keystroke and limit you to a certain number, it's a real lifesaver...

Melisma (under her Rock, admitting - with red face - that she has joined at least one singles' dating site that limits comments and emails to 5000 characters per response box, and IMs to just 200. The one-space habit makes LOTS of sense with them!)
Posted By: LabRat Re: One Space or Two - 08/15/03 03:31 AM
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(BTW, can't remember when the last time I did *that* - typewriters are so... so... passe?)
Ah, typewriters...oh, the nostalgia. <g>

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But in email and fanfic and other less formal instances, I use just one. Saves time and space, and in places where they count every keystroke and limit you to a certain number, it's a real lifesaver...
Funnily enough, despite others mentioning saving space, it wasn't until I read this from you, Mel, that I realised when I switched from the two spaces I was taught to the one space I've used ever since!

It was when I started submitting fanfic for pen and paper fanfic zines. Space was definitely at a premium there and we authors used every trick in the book to ensure that our stories were jammed into as little pages as possible when they were printed off.

LabRat (who's off remembering the olden days of manual typewriters and zines now and being grateful for the internet all over again...)
Posted By: Kri-El Re: One Space or Two - 08/19/03 07:08 AM
I was taught one space, so I voted accordingly, but I'm German, and as Saskia mentioned, Europeans use only one. But I have to admit that I really don't care how many spaces are used, as long as the story is good! thumbsup

- Bernd
Posted By: Karen Re: One Space or Two - 08/19/03 10:17 AM
Oddly enough, I don't pay attention to spaces when reading or editing. As long as there aren't too many spaces then it doesn't bother me. I don't even look for consistency. As long as there is some sort of space where there needs to be one, it's all good.

Of course, previewing my post, I notice the boards ignore the extra spaces. I tried putting like 10 spaces in a row, and it looks like regular formatting. smile
Posted By: Elena Re: One Space or Two - 08/19/03 01:26 PM
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Of course, previewing my post, I notice the boards ignore the extra spaces. I tried putting like 10 spaces in a row, and it looks like regular formatting.
Thank you, Karen!!! smile1
Posted By: Sira Re: One Space or Two - 08/19/03 01:41 PM
I voted one space since that's all I ever knew. This poll was the first place that I ever heard about using two spaces. It even took me, like Elena, a little while to figure out what this was all about.

I think it surprising though, that most people having been taught two spaces are from the US and most people who have only known one space are from Europe. This suggests, in my opinion, a cultural or I-don't-know-what-kind-of reason for this peculiarity. But that's only speculation on my part.

I will now indulge in my amazement at this discovery...

Sira - baffled, surprised, quizzical huh
Posted By: Melisma Re: One Space or Two - 08/20/03 03:03 AM
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I was taught to type first in Canada, and that's where I learned two spaces - then when I went to the States, that's where I figured out about one space...

Just my 10 won worth...

Melisma (shutting up now, here under her Rock)
Posted By: Anne Spear Re: One Space or Two - 08/20/03 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Sira:
This poll was the first place that I ever heard about using two spaces.
I guess you really do learn something new every day... huh
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