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Posted By: Lieta FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/18/16 11:29 PM
I always wondered just what Lois meant to accomplish with her little stow away mission... Especially for the first crew, I wouldn't expect it to be a shuttle mission of dropping people off and coming right back down... *hides*
Posted By: AnnieL Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/18/16 11:49 PM
Oh, that was too funny. Poor Lois. clap
Did Lois even go up? I figured Superman would never have let her, but who knows.
I have to say, that was Lois's best move the whole series. Definitely stupid, but it did land her Superman smile

Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/19/16 12:05 AM
It was subtle, but there was no bomb in this reality, so Clark never showed up at the launch. The apartment fire he debuted at was where the bomb was being made and Lex's laky messed up.

Glad you enjoyed it though =)
Posted By: VirginiaR Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/19/16 05:25 AM
clap Irony profound enough to make even Tempus proud! notworthy Scooped by a hack. Love it!

Originally Posted by Lieta
I always wondered just what Lois meant to accomplish with her little stow away mission... Especially for the first crew, I wouldn't expect it to be a shuttle mission of dropping people off and coming right back down... *hides*
Me, too.

If you ever feel like writing a sequel, I'd love to see that first conversation between Lois and Clark when she finally returns. (Or what she does to try to attract Superman's attention for an interview. We all saw what she did to attract Luthor's attention.)
Posted By: Lynn S. M. Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/19/16 12:16 PM
Unlike Tempus, I love irony. Brava on coming up with such a unique take on the pilot.

Joy,
Lynn
Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/19/16 01:34 PM
Thanks you two.

A sequel, well... that could be fun with a humorous one shot, or really, really involved... sort of like Wendy Richards' Strange Visitor From the Congo or even like Carol Malo's Connections: An Alternate Story if Lois got fired or laid off while she was on the station.

Since this would be a Lois not only not awed from the start but in full Mad Dog mode trying to get back on track after a forced 6 month sabbatical. I mean, I can't imagine the bosses at the Planet being too happy with her even if she doesn't also have Perry enraged at her carelessness... Add to that a Clark who's likely gotten more scoops in the interim (I'd place her coming back anywhere from ILTY to Vatman depending on if you use the revised May date for Never-ending Battle given in Super Mann or the broadcast date in September and how you date time in the rest of the episodes...) and whether or not Lex forgot about her after their one dinner. Heck, unless Lucy stuck around, she might even have lost her apartment...
Lois will NOT be in a forgiving mood when she gets back to Earth.
Posted By: Framework4 Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/20/16 05:12 AM
Delightful, great fun.
Posted By: Morgana Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/21/16 11:42 AM
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"Ms. Lane, you've just volunteered your services to the EPRAD space program for six months. And you'll be lucky if they don't have a jail cell waiting for you when you get planet-side."

This is what happens when we fail to check the water level before jumping in! shock

Great story.
Posted By: cuidadora Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/21/16 08:01 PM
Definitely too funny! laugh

Really enjoyed the irony, and glad to see that Lois had to face the consequences of her actions. I agree a sequel would be interesting, although might very well end up being a long story due to the possible consequences awaiting her.

This one shot is delightful. clap clap clap
Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/23/16 12:54 AM
Glad people enjoyed this little whirlwind. If I were to do a sequel would anyone have a preference for where in the series Lois would get home?
Posted By: Framework4 Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/23/16 03:01 AM
I got to thinking about this tale again,


Originally Posted by It's All About Timing by Lieta
"You're lucky the room you were in was empty due to Dr. Lyon getting a stomach bug at the last minute."

Even more important then the space, was the fuel & mass calculations.

Assume Lois had hid somewhere but everyone was aboard, her added mass could cause a crash.

Imagine that Superman's first Public act was saving and boosting into orbit the launch vehicle which had started falling due to unknown causes.

Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/23/16 03:30 AM
I'd actually been thinking in terms of rations, oxygen/CO2 management and waste up in the station... but that is another good point.

Starting to make the classic helicopter debut look a lot better, lol.

Fun little reading that kind of applies:
http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/001160.html
Forum post asking about weight limitations for the apollo missions. Specifically how much moon rock they were allowed to bring back.

Interesting article on a short story and reactions to it on engineering vs physics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cold_Equations

Unfortunately that was the best I can seem to manage with google.
Posted By: cuidadora Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/23/16 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by Framework4
Originally Posted By: It's All About Timing by Lieta
"You're lucky the room you were in was empty due to Dr. Lyon getting a stomach bug at the last minute."


Even more important then the space, was the fuel & mass calculations.

Actually when I read the story, I assumed that was one of the reasons Lois was lucky. That not only was there an empty seat and space, but also that she was replacing someone else's mass. Maybe even weighing less than Dr. Lyons.

The book Lost Moon: The Perilous Voyage of Apollo 13 by James Lovell or the movie Apollo 13 may also have some ideas for researching what could go wrong (and did) and how to jury-rig or MacGyver solutions.

Originally Posted by Lieta
Glad people enjoyed this little whirlwind. If I were to do a sequel would anyone have a preference for where in the series Lois would get home?
Great question.
I've actually been wondering how that fact would change canon, and where Lois's presence or absence could make the biggest difference.

Just from Strange Visitor:
  • Would Clark have avoided Trask's polygraph and just let them take his computer?
  • In Thompson's office could Clark have been able to read the Smallville file?
  • If Clark was in the warehouse alone, could he have gotten away with the ship and Smallville files?
  • If Clark was pushed from the plane could Superman have forced the military craft down, gotten Trask and Bureau 39 arrested and Bureau 39 dismantled and actually avoided Bureau 39's presence in Smallville (and the need for Lois to call out to save Clark's life?)

Personally I'm okay with any return during the first season. You might want to give an explanation, even brief of how the story differs from canon where you think Lois's presence is integral to the episode (e.g. GGGOH, Lois's pep talk to Clark about how Superman is needed for hope in Neverending Battle, return of his memory in ASU, "saving" Superman in MoSB). It definitely would change the dynamic and perhaps the speed of the development of Lois and Clark's relationship.

Vatman aired almost 6 months to the day after the Pilot, however ASU and Witness may have originally been planned as December episodes not January, especially with the Christmas decorations in Witness. It could also be argued that more than a week passed between any of the episodes, so 6 months could occur anytime during Season 1. So I think you're okay with her return during any episode in Season 1 you choose.
Posted By: groobie Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/24/16 03:24 AM
Great idea...I always thought this same thing when watching the pilot...what the heck is Lois doing? How is she going to get back to Earth if that thing launches?! Perfect last line!
Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/25/16 10:56 PM
I am not an engineer, so the medical necessities were what jumped out at me. You can also add what would have happened to her if she didn't have a seat... and the bruising, if not broken bones, that would occur.

I'm not sure where to place a sequel, nothing screams at me for inspiration, though you could also scramble the episodes. The longer fic I'm working on jumps off from MoSB so it would be nice to work with different episodes... *shrug*.

Thanks Groobie =)
Posted By: Framework4 Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/27/16 05:27 AM
Originally Posted by Lieta
Interesting article on a short story and reactions to it on engineering vs physics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cold_Equations

If you haven't read Tom Godwin's classic tale grab a copy and some tissue
http://www.baen.com/the-cold-equations.html

I rather imagine the fine folks of Space Station Prometheus will make Lois read it.
Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 04/28/16 03:34 AM
It does sound like a good read, unfortunately I'd probably be trying to hold back arguing with the book about why a margin of error that slim on fuel is asking for something to go wrong anyway... but, then again, it's about the morality not the engineering in the end.
Posted By: LMA Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 05/05/16 07:02 AM
I'm so glad you wrote this! smile

YES--I, too, have always been amazed by Lois' lack of preplanning (to jump aboard a spacecraft heading into space ) for an article?!?

Clark rescued her/everyone from the bomb, but really, he saved her from potentially leaving the planet, also grin.

I love how you actually had her go into space--and face up to not checking the water level first notworthy.

Hmm....as for a 'return date'? Boy, I dunno. Having Lois gone for potentially 6 months really does change everything about the first season I'd imagine. How do you have HIM without Lois in the suite with Clark? Witness without Clark body-guarding Lois? ASU without Lois for Clark to remember again? The Rival without a rival for Clark's attention? But then again, I suppose the 'problem' in each of those episodes could probably still be solved in the end by Clark/Superman somehow. You just loose a lot of those classic 'moments' that create the backbone for Lois and Clark's friendship.

I guess, IMO, you just dive in. Pick an episode for her to show up in, vaguely update on any of the big changes that happened without Lois around so far, and then create whatever you want from that point on.

Great job!
Laura
Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 05/05/16 03:33 PM
Thanks Laura

Looking back on it, there was a lot in the Pilot that isn't that logical, but then, they were much more worried about pitching the series than continuity with future episodes.

I think quite a bit of episode plot could be shuffled around. Kind of like Nan Smith's series where Clark doesn't start to work at the Planet until after Nightfall.
Hi again!
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Lois Lane felt the shudder of the module docking with the space station with a sense of elation. She had *done it*! The first reporter to cover a space launch from inside a vehicle!
So…what’s going on this time?

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"Who are *you*?" cried an outraged voice from the hallway.
Blind passanger?

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"Well, Ms. Lane, this initial crew of the Space Station Prometheus all signed on for a minimum of six months of service."
Oops?

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"Ms. Lane, you've just volunteered your services to the EPRAD space program for six months. And you'll be lucky if they don't have a jail cell waiting for you when you get planet-side."
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There were countless experiments being conducted, but Lois was only useful to the other crew members for her ability to fetch and carry.
Aww…Mad Dog is being treated like doggy! Lois. Fetch!

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Then, as the final indignity, EPRAD managed to transmit a copy of the Daily Planet only a day after her ill-fated choice to sneak aboard the launch vehicle.

"I'm a Friend and I'm here to Help" by Clark Kent burned Lois' eyes as she read about a man who *flew* in skin tight clothing,
Ooooops!

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saving people from an apartment fire that had erupted the night of the launch. Another story by Kent of all people said that it looked like someone had been attempting to make a bomb in the apartment and had instead set fire to his own building.
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In trying to get the story of the year... she'd missed the story of the millennium.
Good thing he has already met Lois and she’ll be back before Linda gets to town. Otherwise, Cat or Linda might be serious contenders evil

wave Michael
Posted By: Lieta Re: FDK: It's All About Timing by Lieta - 05/22/16 10:51 PM
Hey Micheal =) Glad you liked it. Just a quick little thing about something that always bothered me.

You know... I don't know if you'll have any recollection of this... but if you remember telling me I chickened out on something back in Coin... I didn't in Externals >:)
rotflol hail Thank you for pointing out the obvious FLAW in Lois' plan of sneaking onto the Space Station. huh What were the writers thinking? shock The world will never know.
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