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Hi,

Are we ever given the name of a neighbouring town to Smallville?

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I'm not sure about the L&C world, but on the "Smallville" TV show, a neighboring town, Granville, is mentioned.

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Of course, on the TV series 'Smallville', Metropolis is a neighboring town.

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When I needed towns near Smallville, I just made them up. As I recall, two of the names were Pepper and Rattlesnake Bend.

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How about using a map of Kansas to pick a name? I decided my Smallville was near Witchita, specifically Florence, KS. Thus I have a choice of
Cedar Point
Peabody
Clements
Auline
Marion
Hillsboro
Council Grove.
As far as I recall, LnC never said anything about a nearby town. Then there is Lawrence, Baldwin City, Topeka, but these are urban areas. Reality is better than making something up, IMHO.
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

Artemis, I agree in principle that reality is better than making something up. However, I don't want to use a real place name because that pinpoints the location of Smallville. I have never been to Kansas, and if I get too specific, I'm probably going to run into trouble by mentioning something that simply isn't factual.

I think I'll use Granville because that sounds reasonable to me, although I loved Nan's Rattlesnake Bend!!

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There's a real Rattlesnake Bend in Florida just a bit south-west of Jacksonville in the north-east part of the state. It's near the intersection of State Highway 23 and Doctors Inlet Road.

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Technically speaking, making up a name is not factual, but I understand what you mean. I've been reading the archive and in some stories Smallville is 150 miles west of Wichita. Dodge City, a city of comparable size, is 150 miles west of Wichita, so Smallville would be about ten miles south of Dodge City (of 'Gunsmoke' fame.)Driving 150 miles to Wichita's airport is unnecessary when Dodge has an airport, too. Keeping Smallville's location vague works.

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It's not so much the name being factual as all the other little details such as location of the nearest airport (type of farms, crops grown, trees, size of town, etc.). If I make up a name and say it does have an airport, who can argue? But if I use a real place and say it has an airport, that's where I'm very likely to stumble. smile

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Good point, Corrina. But for those of us who know Kansas, reality gives us a firmer foundation. It's like your wonderful descriptions of Melbourne in Aussie Rules, not to mention the footy grounds.
I've got relatives who went to the University of Kansas (KU) and hubby was born in Lawrence. So it is a real place to me. {re "Nighttime in the Daytime" chapter "Rock Chalk Jayhawk"}
Just note that the further west you go in Kansas, toward Colorado, the farming is harder and the land is drier. So Dodge City is not lush.
Also, as to airports, most are going to be small private airports or commuter flights to Wichita or Topeka. You're not going to fly directly from Granville Regional Airport to Metropolis.
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Good info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Kansas
Also note, Kansas City Airport is in Missouri, not Kansas.


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Artemis,

I need a large, dense tree that typically grows in Kansas. Any suggestions?

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According to this site , you could use a maple or oak tree. Both are very large and dense when mature. The maple could have also been good for climbing when it (or its owner) were younger.

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Hi Corinna:
Maple, birch, Ohio Buckeye are prolific growers in most of the state. These are deciduous trees, so you have to watch the time of year. Firs are not naturally common down there, but do grow if planted.
Try these sites: http://www.gardenguides.com/97140-trees-grow-well-kansas.html

http://www.fast-growing-trees.com/WeepingWillow.htm

Yes, and what Kathy said.

http://www.kansasforests.org/rural/facts.shtml
The last site has pdf files for all the areas in Kansas, so you can search further.
Good luck. I'm looking forward to the story.
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How about using a map of Kansas to pick a name? I decided my Smallville was near Witchita, specifically Florence, KS.
I think a good place to locate Smallville would be east of Wichita, closer to El Dorado in the Flint Hills. The terrain would support such series canon scenes as Jonathan Kent plowing snow, thick tree groves around houses and farms, and that railroad crossing with trees growing up to the edge of the road in GGGOH; streams, creeks and ponds occur naturally in the hills. When I get around to putting my ideas on paper, that's where my Smallville will be located.

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Sounds good to me. Florence is in the Flint Hills. I just wanted somewhere close to Wichita. Look forward to your story!
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Thanks Artemis and Kathy. It's October, so I'll use a fir because I need it as a screen. I'll also add in some maples and oaks to add some fall colour.

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Hi Corrina:
The maples are lush, dense and full of color at that time of year. Here's some other thoughts on the type of fir tree.
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Juniper/Cedar Trees
# The eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana) is arguably the best-suited evergreen tree for growth in Kansas. In fact, the eastern red cedar is the only evergreen tree that is native to the state, according to the Great Plains Nature Center in Wichita. This tree is a source of winter color as well as shelter for birds and small mammals. It prefers full sun and, although it is slightly drought tolerant, moist soil. The Rocky Mountain juniper (Juniperus scopulorum) is a variety of evergreen that grows well in the western parts of Kansas.
Pine Trees
# Pine trees is a favorite evergreen in Kansas for several reasons. First, the Kansas Forest Service states in "Best Evergreens for Windbreaks,"that many farmers favor pines because they do not spread in pastures like the eastern red cedar. Secondly, several varieties of pines are available, which allows landscapers to choose the characteristics that best meet their needs. The ponderosa pine (Pinus ponderosa) is tolerant to drought and high salinity, making it a perfect match for that hard-to-plant Kansas soil. Plant the ponderosa pine in an area of low humidity to avoid disease and insect problems. The Austrian pine (Pinus nigra) is a fast-growing pine that is also drought tolerant. It can be planted anywhere that large amounts of water do not pool. The KFS also suggests that the eastern white pine (Pinus strobus) may be planted as well. However, they note that this variety of pine is not as tolerant as the others are and it may require a more specific planting environment to survive.
Have fun!
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